MHS831

Personally, I enjoyed the Easter Bunny hopping. A lot.

I feel better about Young that Richardson because he has been very good on every level and I think his mind is elite. I worry about the size. I think Richardson is a great athlete, but that has not equated to being a great QB. I see them as being far from equal in terms of experience and processing. I disagree that people are putting too much emphasis on his football IQ and processing--as a QB, those are the most important traits. Ryan Fitzpatrick was brilliant, and very limited physically. During his playing time, many highly-rated QBs with all the tools were drafted and failed. Yes, he was a backup for the most part, but he used his football IQ and processing speed to be as successful as possible. Matthew Stafford, Alex Smith, Brady, Eli Manning, Andrew Luck, etc. are reported to be the most intelligent players in recent history. TE Ben Watson was the only non-QB rated that high--he and Fitzpatrick were tied. It could be nothing, but AR just does not have the resume Young has--Or CJ Stroud. He lacks experience and stats to compare to them. There is reason for concern, but I would not call them comparable---just my take--I appreciate your views because it made me look into it. I am sure there are bad QBs who were Smart--Leinhart, Gabbart, Logan, for example, but we really have not measured Football IQ properly, in my view.

Yes. I would say the oline, processing, etc. are much more of an indication of the likelihood to injure than one's size. In fact, more weight on the frame combined with more movement increases the likelihood for injury. I would love for him to be 6'4" and 220 but they get hurt too. In the end, who is the better player--leave the prediction injuries job to those who know-- Metaphor time!! Remember in Apollo 13--that astronaut was pulled from the flight because they thought he would get the chicken pox. He did not go, and did not catch the chicken pox. Instead, another astronaut got sick during the mission. Everything then went wrong--and they never landed on the moon.

I suppose I am listening to the wrong radio station. I do not own this 8 track either.

What does that mean?

Houston has 12 draft picks in this draft and 10 next year, including 2 first rounders. While they have many needs, it is possible that they could take Anderson and then trade up with Arizona and still get them both.

His parents said, "Let's give him a name that will cause him to fight his way through school." Reminds me of a NASCAR driver named Dick Trickle. Who does that to a lad?

AR scares me--I see boom/bust all over him---but if we draft him, he's ours and we have to be all in. Good attitude.

Back to the original single play that seems to have influenced people to think that Young will not be able to perform under center due to his height--the hand off was high--if only he had been shorter....

https://www.google.com/

I really do not know--I just repeated about 10 minutes worth of googling like a parrot. I think I understand it on the surface..

If using the information from the chart I gave you, it basically states the following: CJ Stroud (-140) being drafted first overall--the implied odds give him a 58.33% chance Bryce Young (+110) being drafted first overall--the implied odds give him a 47.62% chance Just a few weeks ago, Fan Duel had Stroud's implied odds at 73.97% and Young's implied odds at 32.26%

I do not either---I THINK it is based on a bet of 100 dollars. If the odds were -150, if you bet $100, you would win $66.67 and get your $100 back. If the bet was +150, you would win $150 + your initial $100 investment ($250). This is a great site to teach the concept. It is how I understand it: https://www.oddsshark.com/tools/odds-calculator

Fan Duel has this a bit closer.

Might want to switch from Dove Skin Care to Quaker State in times like these.

You bring up a good point about Vegas. (Understand that I do not gamble so I have little knowledge of the meaning of odds--this is my perspective)----Vegas odds about public decision making--such as an election--are pretty accurate because the same group of people who are betting are influencing the outcome. However, the odds represent public opinion--and how the bets are going--not reflective of an anticipated outcome to be determined by a third party. Their job is to make money, not predict the future, in other words--the way I understand it. Is the public opinion wrong on this one? In this case, the people betting are not those influencing the outcome, but they are speculating on what the Panthers' front office will do. Sharp football Analysis says this: "Stroud (QB, Ohio State) is predicted to be drafted #1 in the 2023 NFL Draft, with a 77.78% implied probability (-350)" Basically more than 3 of 4 bettors are going with Stroud. Do I interpret that right? Not a gambler, so I am assuming that is what is meant here.

I can see a scenario where Tuttle rotates with Brown, Anderson, and Williams at DE and moves to NT on passing downs, with YGM moving to DE.

The reason he is slated to play DT is because the news release from David Newton of SI said, "The 6-foot-3, 300-pound Tuttle, who according to the team website is closer to 315 pounds, likely will play nose tackle for the Panthers, who are transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4 scheme." While it could very well be true, Tuttle is a bit smallish for a NT in a 3-4. When this was announced, they did not have Penisini. So even though not all players make the team, you still have to put them in the right place. I have heard no coach say that Tuttle was a NT, only David Newton, assuming that because we had signed Williams and the weight on the Panther website was listed at 315. I am not yet convinced that Tuttle is a NT because David Newton read the website--does he not have any more connections than that? He goes to the website and tells us what it says?

Does this suggest that Tuttle will not play Nose tackle for the Panthers? I mean, on the roster we have Penisini, McCall, Roy, and Tuttle slated to play 1 position (NT). We have Brown, Anderson, and Williams slated to play the 2 DE positions. Is it possible that the Panthers want to move Tuttle to DE and will let Penisini and McCall (Roy to PS?) handle the NT duties? I think that is the plan-

I can imagine how nervous the centers in the NFC South are right now--bet they are going to get the helmet eye protectors installed. I mean, you would too if you were going up against a nose tackle names penis in i (eye). OK--back to maturity. jokes over.

His PFF score in 2021 was 56 or so--I think we need a NT, so he will have a chance. I worry that his heart was not in it, which is why he retired at 24. However, sometimes you need a year to reflect and contemplate. I would say he has the potential to be a rotational guy at best-- Update--if he was playing injured, that explains it--could be a diamond in the rough.

I would not want those to be the first five letters of my last name because sometimes teammates shorten your last name as a nickname. Like Gronk, for example.

Didn't Jimmy C have #2 and Cam wanted it? AWKWARD!!! I do not blame Jimmy for not giving it up--regardless of who was going to start. Just a pride thing.

the article does say that the more a skill player runs etc. the more likely he is to be injured. In this case, Young was not performing as a QB, he was running and he fell wrong--probably because he is not a RB and does not know how to "drop and roll". Extending the play put him in an awkward position. As a Panther, I would limit his running and teach him to slide. If he ran all the time like a rb, it is probable that he would never have extended his right arm to break the fall like that--his own weight caused the injury--by the way, not some 300 lb DL.

I started this thread because I think it is central to what we should be discussing in relation to our concerns. I am seeing good stuff from both sides--I blame Bryce Young's parents for this.