MHS831

While we all know that draft status means little about guaranteed performance, it seems to matter when it comes to second and third chances. A seventh rounder, for example, would be cut and delivering pizzas long before an equal first rounder. Having said that, the system (less so for his position, but who knows) matters. The coaches matter. His maturity matters. He will compete with Barno and Clowney for snaps. Barno (6'6" 245) is big for the position and is coming off an ACL injury. He could play SAM LB and might be better suited for that position--but with Wonnum, DJ Johnson, and Eku Leota over there, Barno's athleticism has forced him to the pass rushing specialist side. Barno has no QB hits or sacks in his young career (he is 25). Chaisson--unlike Barno, had 2 sacks in 2023. He is 24 and was drafted in 2020. I am not optimistic, but the ability is there. Under these circumstances, I do not see him being cut. Barno's ACL should slow his development and Clowney is 31. Clowney is up and down throughout his career, so you never know what you are going to get with him. I also expect the Panthers to be watching the waiver wire, with the first opportunity to grab a pass rusher, but you know they don't get cut often.

I actually figured he was so bad here, he'd never get another decent job. They may have inside info about Tepper's influence--just speculation.

I thought so too, but when you say, "There aren't 64 CBs better than me...." that does not sound as if he is still as picky.

It caught my attention as well, but in that same Episode, Mara was talking the Shoen regularly about Barkley--Mara said, "He is our team's favorite player---by far." Mara was also in the room (if I am not mistaken) when they sealed the Burns deal. I can't imagine, however, Tepper taking the approach Mara took in that he was nothing more than an opinionated observer. Tepper shares his opinion, and people here seem to see it as a directive--that is nothing I can prove, but it is how it seems to be, based on random comments. Bottom line? You don't trade away a 26-year old star DE without letting Tepper know that it is going down. He might not like the terms of the trade and decide he'd rather keep Burns--that is not a decision specific to any GM.

I think it depends on the reallocation of resources--we basically swapped Burns for a couple good guards and then found Clowney. I think the guards will impact the team more than Burns,but if we get nothing out of Clowney--gonna be a long season and the defense will be the problem in 2025. Bryce needs to play conservative, multifaceted football--if we get into shooting matches, we lose. However, without the ability to pass or run the football because our middle OL is crap, then we lose. I do think it all starts with a good OL, and I think we need to keep building it.

Yeah, that post your responded to here was one of misinformation, opinion, sarcasm, and provocation while offering no concrete reasons or supporting facts. The interior on an OL when your QB is 5 10" is a huge problem. I guess we learned, however, that opinions, Huddle membership, and McDonald's Wifi are free.

Offense--Corbett, Young Defense--Barno, Chaisson, Leota (I see the development of edge players behind Clowney and Wonnum to be a story.

DO not rule out Barno. He has improved.

We traded the contract--got 2 players who will make a huge impact on our offense than a DE who gets a sack every other game. I hate to lose him, but I think this will give our guys a chance to step up. I look at differences. What is the difference between Burns and Clowney? Burns is an A player and Clowney is a B player. What is the difference between our Guards and Center last season and our Guards and Center this season? LG was a D-, RG was a D-, Center was a D. We should get an A at RG, B at LG, and C at center. Bigger difference for same money--and our QB will evolve from an F to a C, for example. I can also see our RBs improving from C- to B.

he seems to be, from a distance, no more of a douche than most of my friends--cocky and full of crap. The difference may be that people don't call him out. I used to abuse my buddies when they started to get out of line--and they returned the favor often.

It is easy to predict more of the same, but if consider the variables, your foolish if you think things won't be better.

Mostly made up fluff. Gantt is an agent of propaganda--not a journalist.

I don't think there is disagreement on this board that Bryce must drastically improve. We all saw the train wreck last season, and the only disagreement is who should receive what percent of the blame and how effectively were those needs addressed. Bryce sucked in 2024 and Canales will attempt to fix him. We do not have Alzheimer's. We remember 2023. We get it. I also know that he is short, soft-spoken, and has an average arm at best. I don't expect that to change. Most QBs fail. Most first round QBs fail. Your remarkable hindsight is not needed in June. We got the picture. We know where we stand.

Unless this is an excerpt---I used to work for the Observer years ago--never would have written an article without mentioning the player's position . WR is the obvious guess, but he could be a TE. Will have to google it since OPOY is not a position.

I just built a trophy cabinet. Thanks a lot.

I did not start this thread, but I can end it, by god. I think this helmet would go best with all of the combinations. (I hate silver helmets--dingy, and too many teams (Lions, Raiders, Patriots, Cowboys) have them--that is nearly 1 in 6 teams have silver helmets, and I am not including Tampa Bay and their pewter. I thought I would like the black helmet more before I saw it, and they will never adopt a black helmet in the South playing outside. The solution, and the best looking helmet, is this:

I think he was talking about practice facilities--and they are pretty lame.

Maybe your high school should have done a better job of allocating resources. ( "High School" is two words which is why I cracked this joke....just playingaround. )

I used to go to OTAs a lot when Fox and Rivera were coaching. The clips I have seen from OTAs seem more upbeat and intense.

the flaws people point out here are good points that can be minimized or overcome, but to your point, last season was so bad it is really not fair to pretend to know whether he is a bust or not. The system, coaches, OL, WRs, TEs, and RBs were below average--and so was the QB play--as it had to be. People who think the QB makes the pieces better are getting it backwards--the proper pieces make the QB better.

We might see some purging at the end of training camp.

regardless of what happened up until now, Canales is playing the cards he was dealt/inherited. He and Morgan are doing exactly what the must do to maximize success. I hope Bryce shows out this season.

Great thread--but Bryce sucks!! (just kidding). I love the topic. Gross was our best OL because he played LT--if you equate RT and LT, that is a mistake. However, Kalil did a lot that people did not realize--very intelligent at calling schemes. A very good if not great C. Wharton was SO valuable because he could play 4 positions on the OL at a very high level. Do not underestimate the value of his versatility. Not many guards can take LT duties and perform well. Turner was solid but started sucking after getting paid. Chris Terry was very solid here for 3+seasons. Where do I put Moton? 1. Gross 2. Kalil 3. Moton 4. Wharton 5. Terry / Turner

That's why they play the games. I think they win 5 or 6. Remember, the 99 Rams went from 4 wins in 1998 to 16 wins in 1999 with a former grocery store clerk at QB. There were many experts who were mocking Dick Vermeil before the 99 season. It is unlikely, but if our Defense can get pressure and stay healthy, the offense could figure it out. I am not predicting this, but I am not burying the Panthers in June either.