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There is another giveaway that demonstrates how highly regarded Young is in terms of respect around the league. The Texans reportedly offered their 2024 first round pick to Chicago to move up. Reportedly, they loved Young. Keep in mind, as stated on NFL Network, that SF in 2021 originally traded up for an Alabama QB--Jones--and during the time between the trade and the draft, fell in love with Lance. Romeo was madly in love with Roseline before he met Juliet and forgot all about her. In other words, Shakespeare understood the NFL Draft. While we know that Young is an incredibly smart player, that does not mean Stroud is not. I am sure that the Panthers will know the answers to their questions in due time.
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I remember telling you this and then you repeated it, taking credit. It was an ugly scenario. No, I remember you saying it. It caused me to take a deeper look into Young, and I watched one analysis that sold me on the pick--he was at the LOS, calling line blocking schemes and changing the play---very sophisticated--demonstrates elite processing. You have to be careful about the workouts because the best QBs are rarely the best athletes. the reason? They must be the best processors first. I think Stroud is going to be great and I would not mind taking him, but if this group of coaches thinks Young is the real deal, then who am I to argue with them? A few hints that have been stated along the way: The comparison between a QB and a point guard. Comments that his size does not bother them. Basic descriptions about what they are looking for in a QB--and they praised Bozeman and Thielen recently about their positivity and character--it matters a lot to them. Not that any of the top QBs have character concerns, but Bryce is beloved by his teammates--even the Georgia Bulldogs talked about what a great guy he is---leadership matters.
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He does bring a unique perspective. And in fairness to him, put any good player in a bad system with bad players and they struggle. There are so many variables. Simms evaluates the skill set, but it is up to the teams to develop it and provide the greatest chances for success. Yes--he makes you reconsider some aspect of the players. I have noticed on the Huddle that many people jumped on a player right after the combine and that decision is the one they will defend until the draft--it stops being about careful consideration of multiple perspectives and starts being about who is right. I have just about switched from Stroud to Young---based on the way Young calls OL blocking schemes and changes plays on the line of scrimmage---and based on the fact that so many OSU QBs look great in Columbus but do not splash into the NFL.
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I never said it was the only method of communication. I do think teams use the media to send messages and players use the media to reply--(See Rodgers, Aaron and Murphy, Mark).
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I wonder if it has something to do with the QBs getting most of the cap increase each year--
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They are not communicating with other teams--they are communicating with unsigned free agents.
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Besides QB, what do y'all think are out biggest draft needs?
MHS831 replied to Panthero's topic in 2023 NFL Draft
Good question. Based on what they said about Chinn and Luvu, it tells me that they need a nickel CB (to keep Horn on the outside) and they need an Edge (So Luvu can play LB and maybe some OLB in 4-3 looks?) 1. WR (if we sign Chark or another, this is eliminated) 2. OLB/Edge (I am hoping that Barno steps up) 3. Nickel CB (A nickel CB to use when Chinn is not playing the big nickel would keep Horn outside) 4. 3-4 DE (these are rotational players, and we definitely need at least 1 DE) 5. Swing OT (As of now, this may not be that big of a need--Cade Mays to LG, BC to swing T. still like to see a depth player so that we do not lose effectiveness at 2 positions if a T goes down) 6. LB (I like Smith, but with Thompson, we need some depth) 7. Safety (we have 4 Safeties if you count Chinn, and if Chinn plays somewhere else, we would have no depth for 3-S looks. -
Concerning Chark, I think its down to Detroit and Carolina. If we offer $10m per, we outbid Detroit, the way understand it (according to Detroit media).
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About those saying we overpaid--this is one of the most frugal free agencies I can remember.
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Is it possible that the TIMING of this presser was to send a message to those with offers on the table that negotiations are over? In other words, "why now?"
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Signing Chard helps the draft unfold: We really need to find a nickel CB to keep Horn outside and Henderson as the fourth WR. Henderson needs to replace Jackson when he gets hurt during the National Anthem of week 2. I really think the plan is to find an OLB Edge (the draft is pretty deep at OLB/Edge) and then we can take a look at ILB with Luvu (situationally?) Smith, Thompson, and maybe Chinn (situationally). I think we will still draft ILB later.
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I think we'd be better off addressing WR in free agency and then looking WR next year. I also think we have 3 WRs who need time to develop to see what we have (TMJ, Shenault, and Smith--maybe even the two from the PS_)
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Some of the older Huddlers are in diapers. Show some respect!
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No, unless he plays like Cam or L. Jackson--and he does not. In fact, the team gets the mature player on a rookie deal, which could be an advantage.
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I think that was a reveal. It is because Jackson and Henderson cannot play it? I think they plan on playing Chinn / Big nickel a lot, and they plan to draft a CB to play nickel. I would not be surprised to see a CB taken at 39--or an edge rusher-- He also mentioned (correct me if I am wrong) that he was going to play Luvu at OLB and ILB? That suggests (to me) that they need an edge rusher--or they will draft an ILB and leave Luvu outside. Having trouble processing what this is going to look like--maybe because 2 pieces or so are missing
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Hooker could turn out to be the best value--I do think he will emerge to be better than one or more of the top 4 QBs--AR or Levis-maybe.
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Exactly-when I opened this thread, I was expecting some radical take. As players, I do not see Young and Stroud on different levels. I see the same level, different tools
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Have not read thread yet or watched video--hope this does not mean they are done in free agency (for now).
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Miles Bridges is on here--Hornet returning this month--from Michigan State--maybe they know each other as well--
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If TMJ steps up like I hope he does, this WR group could be good. To me, this team could be special if a few players take huge leaps---TMJ, Barno, Smith, to name 3.