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Isn't a flying rat a bat?

we have about 37 days left.

that is what I wanted to see the most---thanks for providing this information OP From these numbers, you can see how close Young and Stroud really are. QBR Both are significantly better than the average NCAA QB in terms of QB rating. In these 4 categories, Young is +25.2 above the FBS average and Stroud is +18.4 above the FBS average. When compared to each other, Young has a fairly significant advantage when facing a blitz (+4.6 Young) and a tremendous advantage throwing outside the pocket (+26.7). When inside the pocket, Stroud has a slightly less significant QBR advantage (+3.7 Stroud). The ability outside the pocket is the biggest advantage for Young. Without that category, the QBs are pretty even. COMPLETION/OFF TARGET % Here I will summarize--first, I found it interesting that Stroud had a higher percentage of deep balls completed (+5%) over Young, but Young's deep passes were on target more often (7.7%) That means three of four of Young's passes over 21 yards were catchable balls, while Stroud can say that over two out of three were catchable. That suggests that Stroud had the better receivers. Young has a red flag in that his completion percentage on deep outs from the pocket was 40%--about 8% below the FBS average and 26% lower than Stroud. That is an important pass to throw in the NFL. However, his off target percentage for the same throw was 5.1% better than Stroud's, so that makes little sense. Were Bama WRs and TEs that much worse that Buckeyes'? Young has a significant accuracy advantage on the short throws, while Stroud is worse than FBS average. From this perspective, I think these QBs are close, but I would give Young the advantage only after looking into his performance on deep sideline routes. I am sure the Panthers will be watching film and testing his arm strength to make that throw on time from the pocket. Young's accuracy numbers are significantly higher than his completion percentages. I would be happy with either QB. Hooker belongs in the Richardson/Levis category, based on these stats

Morning shrooms?

Yes, on NFL Network today (Good Morning Football) they related the aggressive moves by the Panthers to the Teppers, referring to the brass balls on his desk. I could live with either one, but--as with Wilson and Brees--if we go with Young, he has to be max protected.

Bryce Young and the QB size dilemma. This article summarizes it quite well, imo. Basically compares Young to other small QBs. "He will officially register as a uniquely small player—one that will force one NFL team to take one of the greatest risks, one of the biggest plunges, that we’ve seen in any draft cycle. And he’ll start his journey to become one of the league’s greatest outliers." https://www.theringer.com/nfl-draft/2023/3/3/23623742/bryce-young-height-short-nfl-combine-outlier

"Bryce Young is one of the best 'processors' I've scouted over the past decade—he sees the entire field so well," ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. tweeted. Young is also extremely accurate, whether in the pocket or on the move. While he's not a run-heavy quarterback like Murray, he has plenty of escapability in his game. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10066071-bryce-young-will-be-the-most-polarizing-prospect-at-2023-nfl-scouting-combine

I am thoroughly enjoying this offseason. Sure--take the Shakespeare stuff. Funny how they are considered the quintessential symbols for true love when they were 14ish and 16, knew each other for less than a week, and ended up killing themselves. So if our GM acts like Romeo and falls in love with someone he meets at the Combine in Indy's house (a team also looking for a QB)----I think, however, if Romeo had Juliet's 40 time and had he seen her throw before making the decision, he might have gone back to Rosaline--the taller Capulet.

Cam was fairly raw when he came out, and most people do not realize that he was below 60% completions for his career. At Auburn in 2010 Cam was at 66%--so his accuracy dropped--(pro system vs. spread)

We do not know. I just hear the word "processing" and "point guard" and "size doesn't matter," and either they are great at lying and deception to influence a trade with Houston or they are spewing characteristics that they have prioritized during their film sessions. At the combine, we could see Stroud's strengths and they were impressive. I think this is going to come down to the things we can't see at a workout--on the white board and watching film from the endzone.

I think it will be Young or Stroud, but if it is Richardson, it will be like the second coming of Cam. I can get behind all that.

You mock her, but it somehow made you seem smaller. That's weird!

He has got it all figured out--in his brain--beneath his mullet.

Did we not just watch Baker have 2-3 per game?

There is another giveaway that demonstrates how highly regarded Young is in terms of respect around the league. The Texans reportedly offered their 2024 first round pick to Chicago to move up. Reportedly, they loved Young. Keep in mind, as stated on NFL Network, that SF in 2021 originally traded up for an Alabama QB--Jones--and during the time between the trade and the draft, fell in love with Lance. Romeo was madly in love with Roseline before he met Juliet and forgot all about her. In other words, Shakespeare understood the NFL Draft. While we know that Young is an incredibly smart player, that does not mean Stroud is not. I am sure that the Panthers will know the answers to their questions in due time.

I remember telling you this and then you repeated it, taking credit. It was an ugly scenario. No, I remember you saying it. It caused me to take a deeper look into Young, and I watched one analysis that sold me on the pick--he was at the LOS, calling line blocking schemes and changing the play---very sophisticated--demonstrates elite processing. You have to be careful about the workouts because the best QBs are rarely the best athletes. the reason? They must be the best processors first. I think Stroud is going to be great and I would not mind taking him, but if this group of coaches thinks Young is the real deal, then who am I to argue with them? A few hints that have been stated along the way: The comparison between a QB and a point guard. Comments that his size does not bother them. Basic descriptions about what they are looking for in a QB--and they praised Bozeman and Thielen recently about their positivity and character--it matters a lot to them. Not that any of the top QBs have character concerns, but Bryce is beloved by his teammates--even the Georgia Bulldogs talked about what a great guy he is---leadership matters.

He does bring a unique perspective. And in fairness to him, put any good player in a bad system with bad players and they struggle. There are so many variables. Simms evaluates the skill set, but it is up to the teams to develop it and provide the greatest chances for success. Yes--he makes you reconsider some aspect of the players. I have noticed on the Huddle that many people jumped on a player right after the combine and that decision is the one they will defend until the draft--it stops being about careful consideration of multiple perspectives and starts being about who is right. I have just about switched from Stroud to Young---based on the way Young calls OL blocking schemes and changes plays on the line of scrimmage---and based on the fact that so many OSU QBs look great in Columbus but do not splash into the NFL.

I never said it was the only method of communication. I do think teams use the media to send messages and players use the media to reply--(See Rodgers, Aaron and Murphy, Mark).

I wonder if it has something to do with the QBs getting most of the cap increase each year--

They are not communicating with other teams--they are communicating with unsigned free agents.

Good question. Based on what they said about Chinn and Luvu, it tells me that they need a nickel CB (to keep Horn on the outside) and they need an Edge (So Luvu can play LB and maybe some OLB in 4-3 looks?) 1. WR (if we sign Chark or another, this is eliminated) 2. OLB/Edge (I am hoping that Barno steps up) 3. Nickel CB (A nickel CB to use when Chinn is not playing the big nickel would keep Horn outside) 4. 3-4 DE (these are rotational players, and we definitely need at least 1 DE) 5. Swing OT (As of now, this may not be that big of a need--Cade Mays to LG, BC to swing T. still like to see a depth player so that we do not lose effectiveness at 2 positions if a T goes down) 6. LB (I like Smith, but with Thompson, we need some depth) 7. Safety (we have 4 Safeties if you count Chinn, and if Chinn plays somewhere else, we would have no depth for 3-S looks.

Concerning Chark, I think its down to Detroit and Carolina. If we offer $10m per, we outbid Detroit, the way understand it (according to Detroit media).

About those saying we overpaid--this is one of the most frugal free agencies I can remember.

Is it possible that the TIMING of this presser was to send a message to those with offers on the table that negotiations are over? In other words, "why now?"

Signing Chard helps the draft unfold: We really need to find a nickel CB to keep Horn outside and Henderson as the fourth WR. Henderson needs to replace Jackson when he gets hurt during the National Anthem of week 2. I really think the plan is to find an OLB Edge (the draft is pretty deep at OLB/Edge) and then we can take a look at ILB with Luvu (situationally?) Smith, Thompson, and maybe Chinn (situationally). I think we will still draft ILB later.