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BC was not that good at LG, but I think he should improve. As Ekwonu and BC improved, then we finally put Bozeman in, the OL got pretty solid. We will need to be very stout up the middle--and I like what I saw of Cade in limited action. not elite, but good.

I think missing out on an edge is a huge mistake, but I see this draft. Why is everyone drafting Guards when we have no real backup plan at T, unless we really like the player we signed off the Dolphins' Practice Squad last year. A T is more likely to move inside to G than a G to a T--so I am thinking depth here.

I think we wanted OT Dawkins and then Buffalo jumped ahead of us and drafted him, leaving us to pick Moton. That was Marty Hurney taking Stewart--drafted him off the operating table--a running back--a year after drafting another RB in the first---then traded up to grab Otah. The next year, he makes up for it by drafting Everette Brown. Then he makes up for that by drafting Jimmy Clausen after 2 teams that needed QBs desperately at the time (Chiefs, Vikings) passed on him--- twice (first AND second rounds). In fact, Marty spent the night between rounds 1 and 2 trying to convince the Rams to trade the 33rd pick to him--I think that was the same draft that he traded up to get Armanti Edwards because the Colts bluffed interest in him. Sorry, what was the subject?

If this board is any indication of the Panthers' mindset, then I would expect the Panthers to be willing to go with Stroud or Young--so I make that trade and I get a 2024 first rounder. That could be the plan--doubtful--but if there is a situation in which they are playing rock paper scissors or drawing straws---do it.

What do you know about Lamel Coleman? He was a day 3 draft pick out of UMass and the Panthers signed him from the Dolphins practice squad during the season. Not to say he will eventually start, but is he that depth swing OT everyone seems to be looking for these days? Without a preseason, we have not seen or discussed him. I would hate to pull Christensen out of LG to move him outside, making us weaker at 2 positions should a OT get banged up. (Wharton used to be that guy, and I did not like it then). Of course, as happy as I have been with Mays--it could work.

That is why I want to wait until the third or fourth to address CB--

I said it first at a dinner party. 1. 5 Edge players ranked in the top 21. I think the Panthers might trade back from #39 if Ojulari is not there. Reason? If they want an Edge, You would have Felix, McDonald IV, White, Hall, and Foskey between #44 and #60. 2. CBs Juluis Brentz (K state) and Corey Trice (Purdue) are good fits and could be available with pick 93. I worry that there could be 2 lingering at #39 that could tempt the Panthers--Ringo and Forbes. My preference is to wait until day three and draft Terrell Smith. 3. If you really want a TE from this draft with the third rounder, take Luke Schoonmaker. He will be a solid starter in this league. He is a sleeper because he played behind one of the best TEs in the NCAA at Michigan, but he was still able to post decent stats. If not, Brenton Strange (Penn State) would be the TE I would target --https://www.nfl.com/prospects/brenton-strange/32005354-5218-8631-c965-3e23bcc23565 4, If you look at the WRs between #76 and #86, it is reasonable to expect one to drop to 93. We have already had contact with Mingo. So, based on this list, here is what I would do: Pick 39: If Quentin Johnson (WR) and BJ Ojulari (Edge) drop, I think the Panthers take that player. If not, I think they might consider CBs Forbes or Ringo. Personally, I want an edge in the second round, so I trade back in round 2 and take an Edge like Hall or McDonald IV. I would then (possibly) move up from #93 to make sure I grabbed a WR--Mims, Rice, or Mingo. Sleeper I would grab in round 4 (you heard it here first): CB Terell Smith (Minnesota). https://www.nfl.com/prospects/terell-smith/3200534d-4973-9042-a2e5-7a611c3c3214 So what would I do if the draft were today and I was given the job? 1. Bryce Young. 51% sure. 39. Assuming no player is there that would make me jump, I would try to trade back about 15 spots to about #54, adding a third round selection (somewhere around #85). With the 54th pick, I would take Edge Derrick Hall or Will McDonald IV. 85. From that spot, I am really eyeing WR because I like a few who should be on the board--Mimms, Mingo, and my favorite, Rice. I throw in my fifth rounder if necessary to move up to take Mims or Rice. 93. Brenton Strange, TE Penn State. 114. Offensive line depth--I would hope that USC Guard (with Tackle ability) Andrew Vorhees would drop due to the injury he is rehabbing. He would be ready to start in a year or two. 132. Terell Smith, CB Minnesota

Maybe just a coincidence, but as a child, his school bus only had 6 windows.

Personally, I enjoyed the Easter Bunny hopping. A lot.

I feel better about Young that Richardson because he has been very good on every level and I think his mind is elite. I worry about the size. I think Richardson is a great athlete, but that has not equated to being a great QB. I see them as being far from equal in terms of experience and processing. I disagree that people are putting too much emphasis on his football IQ and processing--as a QB, those are the most important traits. Ryan Fitzpatrick was brilliant, and very limited physically. During his playing time, many highly-rated QBs with all the tools were drafted and failed. Yes, he was a backup for the most part, but he used his football IQ and processing speed to be as successful as possible. Matthew Stafford, Alex Smith, Brady, Eli Manning, Andrew Luck, etc. are reported to be the most intelligent players in recent history. TE Ben Watson was the only non-QB rated that high--he and Fitzpatrick were tied. It could be nothing, but AR just does not have the resume Young has--Or CJ Stroud. He lacks experience and stats to compare to them. There is reason for concern, but I would not call them comparable---just my take--I appreciate your views because it made me look into it. I am sure there are bad QBs who were Smart--Leinhart, Gabbart, Logan, for example, but we really have not measured Football IQ properly, in my view.

Yes. I would say the oline, processing, etc. are much more of an indication of the likelihood to injure than one's size. In fact, more weight on the frame combined with more movement increases the likelihood for injury. I would love for him to be 6'4" and 220 but they get hurt too. In the end, who is the better player--leave the prediction injuries job to those who know-- Metaphor time!! Remember in Apollo 13--that astronaut was pulled from the flight because they thought he would get the chicken pox. He did not go, and did not catch the chicken pox. Instead, another astronaut got sick during the mission. Everything then went wrong--and they never landed on the moon.

I suppose I am listening to the wrong radio station. I do not own this 8 track either.

What does that mean?

Houston has 12 draft picks in this draft and 10 next year, including 2 first rounders. While they have many needs, it is possible that they could take Anderson and then trade up with Arizona and still get them both.

His parents said, "Let's give him a name that will cause him to fight his way through school." Reminds me of a NASCAR driver named Dick Trickle. Who does that to a lad?

AR scares me--I see boom/bust all over him---but if we draft him, he's ours and we have to be all in. Good attitude.

Back to the original single play that seems to have influenced people to think that Young will not be able to perform under center due to his height--the hand off was high--if only he had been shorter....

https://www.google.com/

I really do not know--I just repeated about 10 minutes worth of googling like a parrot. I think I understand it on the surface..

If using the information from the chart I gave you, it basically states the following: CJ Stroud (-140) being drafted first overall--the implied odds give him a 58.33% chance Bryce Young (+110) being drafted first overall--the implied odds give him a 47.62% chance Just a few weeks ago, Fan Duel had Stroud's implied odds at 73.97% and Young's implied odds at 32.26%

I do not either---I THINK it is based on a bet of 100 dollars. If the odds were -150, if you bet $100, you would win $66.67 and get your $100 back. If the bet was +150, you would win $150 + your initial $100 investment ($250). This is a great site to teach the concept. It is how I understand it: https://www.oddsshark.com/tools/odds-calculator

Fan Duel has this a bit closer.

Might want to switch from Dove Skin Care to Quaker State in times like these.

You bring up a good point about Vegas. (Understand that I do not gamble so I have little knowledge of the meaning of odds--this is my perspective)----Vegas odds about public decision making--such as an election--are pretty accurate because the same group of people who are betting are influencing the outcome. However, the odds represent public opinion--and how the bets are going--not reflective of an anticipated outcome to be determined by a third party. Their job is to make money, not predict the future, in other words--the way I understand it. Is the public opinion wrong on this one? In this case, the people betting are not those influencing the outcome, but they are speculating on what the Panthers' front office will do. Sharp football Analysis says this: "Stroud (QB, Ohio State) is predicted to be drafted #1 in the 2023 NFL Draft, with a 77.78% implied probability (-350)" Basically more than 3 of 4 bettors are going with Stroud. Do I interpret that right? Not a gambler, so I am assuming that is what is meant here.

I can see a scenario where Tuttle rotates with Brown, Anderson, and Williams at DE and moves to NT on passing downs, with YGM moving to DE.