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We know that 3 of these 7 players will absolutely not be drafted by the Panthers.

I agree, but I am not sure Luvu plays the edge on a regular basis--I think his base position will be ILB. Of course--that is just my take---waiting to see what happens

His sources also say, "Thank you for your order. Pull around to the window."

Just a suggestion: 3 numbers

I heard the might, but no Jim Ottos. (00). I do not understand the difference between 0 and 00 than 9 and 99.

He gave me poo because I was joking about the average age/maturity level of the Huddle--not his son--so it might be a sensitive subject--your son was not targeted. Be proud.

With Young, we are penalizing him because he might get hurt. We did not do that with Cam, who had an 8-year career (do not count the last 3 years--they were bad).

I agree. It sounds as if Reich is making the choice, but he is actually saying, "I am making the choice, but I will not know his preference until 10 days (roughly) before the draft. I would add that I am sure they will report that they were on the same page.

13 and a half--buddy!

I see YGM as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 DE on passing situations. He is 6-5, 265, and ran a sub 4.6 40 at his pro day--so I dunno--a perfect 4-3 DE. According to the Bleacher Report, the ideal size for a 3-4 OLB is 6'3" 240.

Nah. I don't need an agent.

Hold up! I have been screaming about Marshall this offseason. He is not going to breakout--he already has. He is the reason (and Shenault) that i do not think we should take a WR at 39. During 2021, Marshall had 138 yards on 17 receptions. During the first eight games of 2022, Marshall had 148 yards on 10 receptions. During the time, we got rid of Anderson and Rhule. In the last 8 games of 2022--more than a half season--Marshall had 342 yards on 18 receptions. If you take the last 8 games of 2022--when TMJ was forced into the offense more, he would have averaged 43 yards per game. Over a 17 game season, that equates to 727 yards. Considering the QB situation, coaching, maturity, etc. It is reasonable to expect TMJ to continue that type of production, if not improve it. PS. He is not yet 23. There are many players in this draft who are older.

If this becomes about the size of the QB, then we all know who the pick is going to be. Stroud has had the much better WRs to throw to and he has played in the weaker conference. Does that mean he cannot play QB? Nope. But before you put your eggs into one basket, remember this: Young was good enough at 5'10" to beat out all competition at the most prestigious college football program in the nation. If his size is a detriment, it is also a reason to admire him more than the others. Sam Darnold was good in college. He has the size and the physical skills needed to be a great pro qb--why did he not become one? Was it coaching? I don't know. But he was 6-4 and can spin it. What the hell is the big problem? I think the reason QB is so hard to gauge is based on 2 things in general: 1. This situation. Most elite QBs go to struggling programs and are forced into the "messiah" role too early because fans and coaches pressure the process. These are 22-year old kids, and suddenly, they are determining the success a billion dollar business behind a bad OL. 2. The things that are important as a QB cannot be easily seen. How quickly do they process? Imagine, in college, a successful QB needs to process a play in 1 second. 50% of the top QBs in college can do that. They are drafted. In the NFL, that processing window closes to .8 of a second. Of those that are drafted, only 25% can do that. If they do not learn or their situations do not change, they bust. I get why QBs in the NFL with all the size and talent in the world bust. Many have had it fairly easy--relying on their "god given" skills and size to elevate them above the competition their entire lives. In some ways, they may never have been genuinely challenged. But a 5'10" QB getting a scholarship at a FCS school is impressive. To be named the starter as a freshman is a near miracle. But for that team to be Alabama? Shut up. I am not endorsing either candidate, but if you only see Young's size as a detriment, it really is. Yes, he can be injured or hurt, but a solid OL and the new NFL rules that protect the QB are factors. Stroud can get injured as well. But it is also a measure of the man inside, and that man "can plan my castle onslaught any day."

What are the factors that cause passes to be batted down at the line of scrimage? 1. Locking in on one WR or telegraphing passes. 2. Release time-a slow release gives the DL time to get their hands up. 3. A sidearm or three-quarters delivery. 4. Pressure on the passer, disrupting the timing. 5. RBs who are late to the gap to pick up a blitzer. 6. WRs not getting separation. 7. Hurricane force winds or tornadoes. 8, Low flying birds 9. Defensive lineman wearing platform shoes or springs 10. clay disc or ske et shooters. (there! I was trying for 10)

Personally, I get the appearance that the WR position is a need, but I do not see where it exceeds the need for a CB or Edge rusher (OLB). TMJ was not developed well here, and when he was used in the second half of 2022, he showed signs of progress. He had nearly 500 yards during that time. Shenault was horribly misused last year. During his first 2 seasons at Jax, he averaged over 600 yards. Here, his numbers were cut in half (272). We added Chark and Thielen, and Smith was a developmental rookie. If we get the most out of TMJ (he has shown that he is capable of a season in the 800 yard range, and Shenault (also shown to have the ability to get 800 yards) and then there are 2 added WRs who are established veterans, I do not see the urgency to splash into this draft looking for the future #1. Chark may be a rental, but we will have room under the cap to find a WR 1 if needed. Not many teams have an ideal roster, and with the addition of a receiving TE, the productivity we lost in Moore should be replaced quite easily--and then some. Just my 2 c

We signed 3--Anderson, Williams, and Tuttle. We currently have Brown, McCall and Roy--I think we will use YGM in the DE position on passing downs, so there is that too (possibly)

The answer is hidden in plain sight. When asked, "Bryce, when do you think you will be drafted, he holds up 2 fingers, indicated that he thinks he will go second overall. This is scientific proof. And then there is this:

The Panthers could also be hoping that they can't reach a clear decision. If Houston has a preference, the Panthers could offer the #1 pick for their second rounder (pick 32, I think). If I did not have a preference--I would take the first pick of the second round-here is why: After day 1, teams have a chance to regroup and make offers to move up in the second round. We could trade that pick for a few day 2 picks. It would be nice to walk away with a CB, Edge, WR, and maybe a TE.

I am just having fun with this--No--that was just illustrating the issue I have with both--OSU's NFL QB struggles--(not giving them credit for Burrow--that is what happens when you escape) and Bryce's size. You have to decide which risk you are most comfortable with, then do nothing because it is not up to you. I think, however, that they do not know--and they are keeping an open mind. I am just going to support the QB we take. I see why they would select either. Bryce is the best qb right now, but Stroud is not far behind and may end up being better. So we shall see--I like both of them a lot,

Gonna be interesting to see how our defense uses the personnel. I am struggling to get a clear image of Chinn, Luvu, and YGM--and now the DT situation you present makes perfect sense.

Me too on all counts. Roy will probably not make the team without his boy here.

I would love this. We still have about 7 needs, imo--with 3 must haves: QB, Edge, and CB.

In my head, I have Shaq, Luvu, and Smith at ILB--with the need to add one. On the outside, I have Burns, Haynes, and Barno with the need to add one. I have YGM playing the 3 to 5 (depending on situation) and I have Chinn at big nickel and maybe some other spot not clearly identified in the 3-4 set. I am simply guessing what I think they will do.

So when you all are saying, "We need a NT, I assume that you do not think Tuttle is that player. We have McCall (340) and Roy (I do not like him, but he is big--330) and Brown could move inside to the nose (320) if we want to rush the passer. So if we need a Nose--we do not need another DE. Is that what you are implying? Not being critical, just want to hear why everyone is saying that we need a NT.

Love this pick. A bit older, but man, he can run routes, catches over the middle like its nothing, and he has good hands.