MHS831

Here you argue against analytics due to the lack of a sample size that is large enough to suit you, but you actually say, "it's just common sense" in your answer without providing any evidence to counter the small sample size. Then you go about calling people who are using this data "ignorant" and their position to be "asinine". How large is the sample size you are using to counter these conclusions? You even try to qualify a point by saying, "As I said..." I research for a living. Your points are reasons to want to see more data, a larger sample size, for example, but they disprove NOTHING. The only evidence on the table supports the position opposite your "common sense." Other articles I have read suggest that smaller players are only injured more because they twist and turn more due to their agility, not contact with larger forces. Tell me an injury that is not joint related that is caused by the size of the person hitting you? Maybe a broken rib? Concussion? These injuries are not due to the size of the person being hit. In fact, larger athletes put more stress and strain on their joints and ligaments than smaller players, which is probably why smaller players are actually hurt less. Your entire argument is based (without data or facts) on the presumption that larger players get hurt less than smaller players. There is no data to support that assumption, but you call it common sense. Your data is based on QBs only--but if you expand the group to all small NFL players by including other positions, you will see that there are studies that demonstrate how injury is due to the mobility and elusiveness the position requires, not size. These players wear helmets, pads, etc. and there is rarely an injury caused by contact to a small person that would not have been equally damaging to a larger person.

As you can see from this photo taken at my last physical, I am more than qualified to modify my answer if the only prerequisite is "having a pair." In fact, I think I may have been the inspiration for a South Park episode, but I digress. Now that I have provided my qualifications, I would like to offer a revised opinion: 1. Young 39. Trade back: DJ Turner, CB, Michigan (reason? As much as I want an edge here, Jackson may not be slightly above average after the Achilles injury. Henderson and Taylor have been toasted a lot. Horn is solid, and needs to be on the #1 WR, not playing nickel. Turner makes us better immediately-he starts off by playing the nickel and next season, when Jax moves on, becomes the #2 CB.) 93. Matt Bergeron, OT, Syracuse (Reason? Bergeron can play swing T and allow for Mays and Christensen and McCray to compete for the LG position. Bergeron would be an ideal replacement for Moton when he becomes too expensive to keep in a year or two. The OL needs depth, and I feel that we will address the OL in this draft after drafting a small QB.) 114. Nick Hampton, OLB/Edge, Tweetsie U (Reason? Hampton is a special pass rusher--just kinda sucks vs. the run. We need a pass rushing edge on passing downs opposite Burns. Imagine moving Brown to NT and YGM (for example) to DE?) 145. Luke Schoonmaker, TE, Michigan (reason? Solid #2 TE that fills a need) 168. (For trade from 39 to about 45 in round 2): Anthony Bradford, G/T, LSU. (Reason? We need depth on the OL and he can play 4 positions. By trade, a RG to give depth behind Corbett and perhaps his future replacement.)

To the doctor's critics: Would you prefer a doctor less familiar with Young's playing style to provide an opinion? If so, would that not be a less informed opinion? You imply the presence of bias in your biased comments as if it discredits all he says. Think about that level of hypocrisy.

This is where people who have watched him play less and people without medical degrees resort to their "common sense" to argue against his points. Before you go there: "Dr. Cain's research interest involves the evaluation and prevention of injuries in youth sports, as well as the treatment of adult injuries in the shoulder, elbow and knee, including cartilage and meniscal transplantation....Dr. Cain has presented papers and instructional courses for the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons, American Orthopaedic Society for Sports Medicine and The International Society for Arthroscopy and Knee Surgery on the evaluation, diagnosis and treatment of knee, shoulder and elbow injuries." Quarterbacks' #1 area for injuries is the shoulder by far. This supports the research about smaller players getting hurt LESS than larger players (posted a few weeks ago). But go ahead, challenge the good doctor with your "common sense." Yes, injuries happen (eventually) to all football players, but there is reason to suggest that Young is no more vulnerable than any other player.

I think Castillas (sp?) the guy with the Ed Helms userpic, is going with his wife. Lucky to have a wife like that.

That is also what happened to the coeds in college when they removed the salad bar. Beer sales also went up dramatically.

Don't get uptight when people misinterpret your sarcasm. It is all in the delivery. And I was talking football-not being "serious." No worries.

Can you show me a mock that is not flawed? The Packers have had Favre and Rodgers forever--they make anybody look good. Now they need to make Love's job easier. Sterling Sharpe was in his fourth year when Favre took over and Jayvon Walker was in year 4 when Rodgers was drafted--both were first round picks---so they really have not needed a first round WR because the QB play was so good.

No, I did not see that. I don't really put a lot of stock in pro days--kind of a skill show. the Mayo is something he did once as a joke, and I am guessing that you have no knowledge of the roids... I heard that about jalen Carter.

I think Bryce is the only choice, now that I have seen all of the evidence I am entitled to see. That is not to say that Stroud is not a good person, and that I will not be pulling for him. I hope he does well and Young does a bit better. In fact, all 5 of the top QB candidates are very likeable and I hope they will find success in games when they are not playing the Panthers.

I love the reaction by Kayvon Thibodeaux. Not included here, Sam Prince visited the Giants practice field a few months later, and Kayvon saw him, ran up and gently tackled him. Forever joined by the moment.

Unless we trade back, pick 39 is likely to be one of the following: 34 B.J. Ojulari Defensive End LSU 47 Steve Avila Center / Guard TCU 51 Julius Brents^ Cornerback Kansas State 54 Drew Sanders Linebacker Arkansas

The more I think about it, the more I would change the sixth overall pick from AR to Stroud.

I am starting to think he will be. Starting to get the Allen vibes with him--put him behind a good OL and give him some credible targets, his decision-making would "suddenly" improve. You could say the same for AR, but there are other variables and preferences the Colts might need to consider.

Yeah, I think the Zavala guy might be a bit inflated, but figured that maybe he has ties to Ekwonu and they know each other in terms of OL chemistry. I think CB is not about fear of injury--I think we are dealing with an Achilles Injury to a starting CB and our backup CBs are on Mike Evans TD posters. Josh Downs is the player nobody seems to be talking about, and he could be on the radar. I also think a WR could drop, but not far. Good point about R2 /3 They are very defensive. The reason I took Sanders is because he is a natural pass rusher from inside or outside. That versatility could be valuable. \

We need a CB who can play and an Edge. I personally think Mays can step up at G if needed---but I am not that informed about his limited performance in 2022. I think BC should be a swing T with the ability to backup C. We still need a player--This (my opinion) changes as I do more research and read more posts, but I think you are right--I truly see OLB/Edge as our biggest nonQB need, followed by CB and OL.

Well said. For some reason, we now live in a generation in which facts and data are challenged if they are not what the individual wants to hear. The same thing about size--you present data, you give an example (Doug Flutie, 12 year NFL career--before they protected QBs like they do now--and he was 5'10" 180.) but they do not want to consider that. They use their "common sense" to make decisions and then, even if they are wrong and proven to be so, fight tooth and nail to defend their faulty logic. Why? These people are not seeking truth or fairness-they are seeking to validate their biases. True here, true in politics--closed minds are ignorant minds. I wanted Stroud, but I made it known that I was going to "argue both sides"--I got accused of switching loyalties--("I thought you were a Stroud supporter--now you are posting good stuff about Young?" It is amazing how loyalty is more of an issue than truth. If I liked Stroud and found reasons to like Young more, I would never have acknowledged these facts and made the wisest decision--I would have started deleting the unfavorable articles--maybe even mocking them as being unreliable or propaganda. However, this is not a new test, and it has been used for years.

If I am not mistaken, Marty Hurney once told WFNZ that the Panthers start doing mock drafts to prepare for the actual draft. That is probably why he did so well.

This Mock goes through pick 39 (Panthers second rounder) and includes the entire Panther draft, through pick 142. But MHS does not stop there--it is not in his DNA to quit. So, I have included a list of Undrafted Free Agents as well. Round 1: 1. Panthers Bryce Young, QB, Alabama 2 Texans Will Anderson, Edge, Alabama 3. Cardinals Tyree Wilson, Edge, Texas Tech 4. Colts Will Levis, QB, Kentucky 5. Seahawks Jalen Carter, DL, Georgia 6. Titans (trade) Anthony Richardson, QB Florida 7. Raiders Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon 8. Falcons Nolan Smith, Edge, Georgia 9. Bears Parris Johnson, OT, Ohio State 10. Eagles Devin Witherspoon, CB, Illinois 11. Lions (trade) Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State 12. Texans CJ Stroud, QB, Ohio State 13. Jets Peter Skoronski, OT, Northwestern 14. Patriots Jordan Addison, WR, Southern California 15. Packers Zay Flowers, WR, Boston College 16. Commanders Lukas Van Ness, Edge/DL, Iowa 17. Steelers Joey Porter, CB, Penn State 18. Lions Dalton Kinkaid, TE, Utah 19. Buccaneers Broderick Jones, OT, Georgia 20. Seahawks Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee 21. Chargers Myles Murphy, Edge, Clemson 22. Ravens Deonte Banks, CB, Maryland 23. Vikings Quentin Johnson, WR, TCU 24. Jaguars Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame 25. Giants Jack Campbell, LB, Iowa 26. Cowboys Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas 27. Bills Bryan Bresee, DT, Clemson 28. Bengals Darnell Wright, OT, Tennessee 29. Saints Kalijah Kancey, DL, Pittsburgh 30. Eagles Will McDonald IV, Edge, Iowa State 31. Chiefs Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma ROUND 2 32. Steelers Mazi Smith, NT, Michigan 33. Texans John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota 34. Cardinals Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee 35. Colts O’Cyrus Torrence, IOL, Florida 36. Rams Adetomiwa Adebawore, Edge, Northwestern 37. Seahawks Julius Brents, CB, Kansas State 38. Raiders Steve Avila, OG, TCU 39. Panthers Drew Sanders, LB/Edge, Arkansas REMAINING PICKS 93. Chander Zavala, OG, North Carolina State 114. Terrell Smith, CB, Minnesota 142. Charlie Jones WR, Purdue Undrafted Free Agents: Eku Leota, Edge, Auburn; Bumper Pool, LB, Oklahoma; Joey Fisher, OL, Shepherd; Keaton Mitchell, RB, East Carolina; Ronnie Bell, WR, Michigan; DJ Dale, DL, Alabama; Travis Vokolek, TE, Nebraska

It has been done. Doug Flutie was not as good as Young. He had a 12-year NFL career. He was 5'10" 180lbs.

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