MHS831

The more I think about it, the more I would change the sixth overall pick from AR to Stroud.

I am starting to think he will be. Starting to get the Allen vibes with him--put him behind a good OL and give him some credible targets, his decision-making would "suddenly" improve. You could say the same for AR, but there are other variables and preferences the Colts might need to consider.

Yeah, I think the Zavala guy might be a bit inflated, but figured that maybe he has ties to Ekwonu and they know each other in terms of OL chemistry. I think CB is not about fear of injury--I think we are dealing with an Achilles Injury to a starting CB and our backup CBs are on Mike Evans TD posters. Josh Downs is the player nobody seems to be talking about, and he could be on the radar. I also think a WR could drop, but not far. Good point about R2 /3 They are very defensive. The reason I took Sanders is because he is a natural pass rusher from inside or outside. That versatility could be valuable. \

We need a CB who can play and an Edge. I personally think Mays can step up at G if needed---but I am not that informed about his limited performance in 2022. I think BC should be a swing T with the ability to backup C. We still need a player--This (my opinion) changes as I do more research and read more posts, but I think you are right--I truly see OLB/Edge as our biggest nonQB need, followed by CB and OL.

Well said. For some reason, we now live in a generation in which facts and data are challenged if they are not what the individual wants to hear. The same thing about size--you present data, you give an example (Doug Flutie, 12 year NFL career--before they protected QBs like they do now--and he was 5'10" 180.) but they do not want to consider that. They use their "common sense" to make decisions and then, even if they are wrong and proven to be so, fight tooth and nail to defend their faulty logic. Why? These people are not seeking truth or fairness-they are seeking to validate their biases. True here, true in politics--closed minds are ignorant minds. I wanted Stroud, but I made it known that I was going to "argue both sides"--I got accused of switching loyalties--("I thought you were a Stroud supporter--now you are posting good stuff about Young?" It is amazing how loyalty is more of an issue than truth. If I liked Stroud and found reasons to like Young more, I would never have acknowledged these facts and made the wisest decision--I would have started deleting the unfavorable articles--maybe even mocking them as being unreliable or propaganda. However, this is not a new test, and it has been used for years.

If I am not mistaken, Marty Hurney once told WFNZ that the Panthers start doing mock drafts to prepare for the actual draft. That is probably why he did so well.

This Mock goes through pick 39 (Panthers second rounder) and includes the entire Panther draft, through pick 142. But MHS does not stop there--it is not in his DNA to quit. So, I have included a list of Undrafted Free Agents as well. Round 1: 1. Panthers Bryce Young, QB, Alabama 2 Texans Will Anderson, Edge, Alabama 3. Cardinals Tyree Wilson, Edge, Texas Tech 4. Colts Will Levis, QB, Kentucky 5. Seahawks Jalen Carter, DL, Georgia 6. Titans (trade) Anthony Richardson, QB Florida 7. Raiders Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon 8. Falcons Nolan Smith, Edge, Georgia 9. Bears Parris Johnson, OT, Ohio State 10. Eagles Devin Witherspoon, CB, Illinois 11. Lions (trade) Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State 12. Texans CJ Stroud, QB, Ohio State 13. Jets Peter Skoronski, OT, Northwestern 14. Patriots Jordan Addison, WR, Southern California 15. Packers Zay Flowers, WR, Boston College 16. Commanders Lukas Van Ness, Edge/DL, Iowa 17. Steelers Joey Porter, CB, Penn State 18. Lions Dalton Kinkaid, TE, Utah 19. Buccaneers Broderick Jones, OT, Georgia 20. Seahawks Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee 21. Chargers Myles Murphy, Edge, Clemson 22. Ravens Deonte Banks, CB, Maryland 23. Vikings Quentin Johnson, WR, TCU 24. Jaguars Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame 25. Giants Jack Campbell, LB, Iowa 26. Cowboys Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas 27. Bills Bryan Bresee, DT, Clemson 28. Bengals Darnell Wright, OT, Tennessee 29. Saints Kalijah Kancey, DL, Pittsburgh 30. Eagles Will McDonald IV, Edge, Iowa State 31. Chiefs Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma ROUND 2 32. Steelers Mazi Smith, NT, Michigan 33. Texans John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota 34. Cardinals Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee 35. Colts O’Cyrus Torrence, IOL, Florida 36. Rams Adetomiwa Adebawore, Edge, Northwestern 37. Seahawks Julius Brents, CB, Kansas State 38. Raiders Steve Avila, OG, TCU 39. Panthers Drew Sanders, LB/Edge, Arkansas REMAINING PICKS 93. Chander Zavala, OG, North Carolina State 114. Terrell Smith, CB, Minnesota 142. Charlie Jones WR, Purdue Undrafted Free Agents: Eku Leota, Edge, Auburn; Bumper Pool, LB, Oklahoma; Joey Fisher, OL, Shepherd; Keaton Mitchell, RB, East Carolina; Ronnie Bell, WR, Michigan; DJ Dale, DL, Alabama; Travis Vokolek, TE, Nebraska

It has been done. Doug Flutie was not as good as Young. He had a 12-year NFL career. He was 5'10" 180lbs.

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It is a performance based test that measures processing speed. So yes, it is cognitive in that it involves split second decisions the way I understand it.

me too. waste of talent

Damn. I was trying to find an example like that. I googled Police Academy and 21 Jump St.

Purdy scoring high on this test helped promote it. I am not like some of the others, however, ready to denounce it without know what I am talking about. This thread is full of people claiming that tests are not accurate measures of intelligence or performance--but they have not researched it or read research on it. I want to say to them, "Who hurt you?"

Think about the police training exercise where the trainees walk through a room full of "bad guys" and good guys (I do not think this is a real test, but great for TV) in the form of cardboard "targets" that jump out at the trainees. Some are wearing turtle neck sweaters, racoon masks, and Scally caps. Others have women holding babies, nuns and children. The cop has a split second to decide to shoot and who to shoot. Stroud littered the sidewalk with dead mamas, babies, nuns, and children in his test.

I know he is small, but I get the feeling he is going to be special. Almost the exact opposite of Cam--size, personality-skill set.

1. Young QB 2. (39) Tuli Tuipulotu Edge 3. (93) Corey Trice CB 4. (114) Tyler Steen, OT 4. (132) Chandler Zavala OG 5. (145) Charles Jones, WR

For whatever reason, CB is a need and Fitterer has been remarkably quiet about it in free agency. Too Quiet. I think they know the draft is loaded at CB and he did not like the free agents. (usually when I post something like this, an hour later there is an announcement that we signed a CB).

that last post was just a joke--mocking those of us who think it is not going to be Young.

Well heck. Sure sounds like we are going with Hooker.

I think Houston would have to give up the #12 overall or a 2024 first. I still do not think we trade. By the way, if you consider the fact that only about 33% of all draft picks become effective starters. This article is one that sticks in my head when I consider trades that involve mid round draft picks: Five years ago I did a piece detailing how most draft picks are busts, based on a study of 1996-2016 draft picks. The results, which are based on the Pro Football Reference AV metric, are sobering: 16.7% didn’t play for the team that drafted them 37% were considered useless. They either didn’t play much or didn’t make the team. 15.3% were considered poor. Had limited playing time and didn’t do well in the time they had. 10.5% were considered average. These are mediocre players that had starts or significant contributions over 2-3 years. 12.3% were considered good. These could be mediocre or average players that were multi-year starters, Pat Elflein or Christian Ponder for example, or perhaps some genuinely good players that didn’t last all that long for the team that drafted them- Sidney Rice for example. This is where the AV metric can over-rate a player based on the number of starts, rather than their performance while on the field. 6.9% were considered Great. This category is the first that includes undeniably good draft picks. In order to be considered great, they would’ve had to play for the team that drafted them into a second contract, and also performed well over those years. 1% were considered legendary. These are future Hall of Famers, multi-year All-Pros among the best in the league for most of their relatively long careers. And so only about 8% of draft picks are players that really make much of a difference beyond replacement value, and only about 30% see much playing time or make a significant contribution to the team. https://www.dailynorseman.com/2022/4/26/23042105/nfl-draft-pick-bust-rate-remains-very-high

When you are talking about something subjective and immeasurable, you are right--you can argue it.

I am kind of offended by this. I used to be his height. (This is Kyler Murray doing his Bryce Young Impression)

I wonder how much they paid him to do that. I would have to be able to retire, change my name, and move to a country that does not get this Wrestling channel

I saw it on NFL network. It only showed about 30 seconds, so there is that too.