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I'd say bad read. For that pass to be good, he would have thrown it inside--but the momentum of the WR was set up for an outside pass--I think Bryce tried to adjust the pass and got cute.

We are still passing the ball to Hubbard....

agree--he whiffed one play and the next play was bull rushed into the endzone seats.

As for his durability---if we only had a 6-5, 245 lb QB we would not have to worry about injuries.

Butker struggled last season, fwiw. 18 of 24 (ranked 28th) and missed 3 x points.

I see another Gamecock stepping in because of his return abilities--Vann

Here is what I have: Note that the LBs and DL are very versatile, and we can find combinations that will be problematic for offenses. Offense Tackle Guard Center Tight End Running Back Wide Receiver Quarterback Moten Corbett Bozeman Hurst Sanders Chark Young(1) Ekwonu Christensen McCray Thomas Hubbard Theilen Dalton Erving Mays (Mays) Tremble Blackshear Marshall Corral (Christensen) Zavala (4) (Shenault) Shenault Jensen Mingo (2) Byrd Practice Squad (Offense) DiRenzo Tecklenburg Ricci Brown Vann Luton Peoples Wright Defense Nose Defensive End Outside Linebacker Inside Linebacker Cornerback Strong Safety Free Safety McCall Brown Burns Thompson Horn Bell Woods Tuttle D. Williams Gross-Matos Luvu Jackson Chinn (NB) Rowe (NB) (Brown) Anderson Haynes Smith Henderson J.Robinson (5) Franklin (Gross-Matos) Barno Grugier-Hill Taylor Johnson (3) D. Jones (Rowe) (Chinn, Luvu) Practice Squad (Defense) Redmond Leotu B. Pool Wright KEY: UDFA 2023 Draft Pick (Second Position)

This--offense has way more newbies to school. More about timing and chemistry--imo

Before some of you continue attacking the OP, how many saw 2015 coming?

No--he would not--this girl., in my opinion, has high character because Bryce is dating her. To each his own, but I was disappointed in Cam's decision to mother his children.

Not sure he has the taste in women Cam had

Having taken a pay cut and then being moved to #2 or #3 on the depth chart behind a free agent has to impact you.

Some players take time--most WRs take more than a year. If you think coaching changes, OCs, QBs, have no impact on a player's development it tells me you never played the game or attempted to understand what it is like to learn and develop on a high level. If you are looking for instant gratification, gets some Jergens and paper towels and find yourself a dark corner. If not, thank the manager at McDonalds for the free wi-fi and keep pounding on your second-hand laptop like some NFL expert.

Getting ready to ask, "Why do we have 2 threads on 2017 panther guards?"

We did not re-sign him. I guess you are arguing that Peppers chose to leave--but that is one way of looking at it--as an organization, letting him go without compensation or resigning him is letting him walk.

Cam is hard to measure--We had a good defense for the most part, and he rarely had 4 strong quarters in a game--but we were hanging around when he went into beast mode. Never had back-to-back winning seasons, career passing percentage under 60%, but man, he could make things happen when it mattered. Rivera was named coach of the year twice because of Cam, so I dunno. I just do not see a yellow jacket for Cam--but I could be wrong.

Getting rid of Burns would be like letting Julius Peppers walk. No franchise would be that dumb... Most of Carolina's elite edge rushers (Johnson, Rucker, Hardy) aside from Peppers did very little until year 3. Burns is 25 and we are about to see 4-5 elite years of a premier edge rusher entering his prime. A top edge makes your DBs better and allows for average edge rushers to benefit from a lack of attention.

Do your homework (This surprised me): https://www.forbes.com/sites/leighsteinberg/2015/02/09/5-reasons-why-80-of-retired-nfl-players-go-broke/?sh=27ce623778cc

Fox was bitter. I heard him in Spartanburg make a negative comment about AEdwards to another coach (right in front of a group of people watching the practice) after watching him drop a punt from the jugs machine. He said something like, "At least we got a punt returner out of the draft" (sarcastically). He was not really engaging with the players--just watching and shaking his head.

I do not think the Panther placement is homerism--I think the others are downgrading the Panthers based on their recent rep. The Panthers, as stated, are only a QB away, and this team won 7 games without a good QB. We have a lot of questions, but all teams do. I think the Panthers will win 10.

You said nothing about bulls. I see your dark magic with words.

I talked to Armani at an OTA during his second season. First, you have to remember that he was with the Jimmy Clausen draft--when Fox was a lame duck and Marty drafted players he liked. Marty got abused in that draft--trading up for Armani based on misinformation provided by the Colts. That added pressure. Then he gets a new staff the following year. Edwards told me that it was weird learning a new position this late. I joked that it was like being a pitcher all your life and they move you to catcher in the big leagues. He laughed and sorta agreed. I had the same experience in college--when they recruit you to be a TE but, after a few August injuries, they moved me to OLB (played both in HS, but was not the same player on D). So I get it. Edwards was nice, humble, and obviously frustrated.

My son has a signed Clausen #2.

This is why I say that Barno and Johnson might really excel in this defense--I realize he was talking about the back end, but do not underestimate what the OLBs could bring, especially if Burns is attracting attention on the other side.