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You do know that any QB in this situation on a bad team would struggle, don't you? In his rookie season, John Elway completed 47.5% of his passes, 7 TDs in 10 games vs. 14 interceptions. In his rookie season, Terry Bradshaw completed 38% of his passes 6 TDs in 8 games vs 24 interceptions--that is three picks per game. In his first 19 games in the NFL--after a stint in the USFL, Steve Young completed 53% of his passes with 11 TDs and 21 Interceptions. In his rookie season as a starter in Indy, Peyton Manning completed 56% of his passes and threw 28 interceptions. What do these men have in common besides yellow jackets? They were all drafted by bad teams. Their fans called them busts. When Bryce has time, he can make plays. Our personnel around him is terrible. Period. They make stupid mistakes, unforced errors, that puts them in bad situations. Fitterer is the problem. Taking Corral over Howell--STOOOPID. Taking Horn over Surtain--STOOPID. Letting Foreman walk and paying out the arse for Sanders? Sanders was good in Philly, behind the best OL and offense in football--hell, I would have run for 500 yards there. STOOPID. We have not had Young long enough--on the team or in a clean pocket--to decide to discard him.

I dunno. The Panthers have a higher win percentage than every PGA golfer.

If you watched the game today, you would have seen how Bozeman was garbage. Now, if you know about OL chemistry, you would know that Bozeman and Corbett and Zavala, a rookie, are not in synch. Better comparison is to Tua his first year in Miami.

So Fitterer lets a RB who nearly gained 1000 yards for us last year walk, and he signs a RB to a ridiculous contract who ran behind the best OL in football. It was Stoopid. And there are other moves like that making us suck.

So Scott Fitterer stays on? Frank needs time--Frank ain't blocking or running routes

what just happened? I feel dumber.

When the announcers are talking about an 0-3 team filling up our stadium, I feel like I am pulling for the Boston Shamrocks to beat the Harlem Globetrotters each week

You are welcome. --Ron Rivera and Mike Remmers

I think on par--Beason had 10 picks in his career (10 years) and Shaq has 3 (8 years) and their tackle production was very similar. Beason seemed to hit the gaps better that Shaq, imo, wherein Shaq makes a lot of tackles in pursuit--basically, from the side vs. head on in the hole--I have no stats to prove that, however, so it is nothing more than a perception.

Bryce Haters: Rookie stats John Elway: 47.5% completions, 7 TDs 14 Interceptions (Hall of Fame) Peyton Manning: 56.7 % completions, 26 TDs 28 Interceptions (Hall of Fame) Terry Bradshaw: 38.1% completions, 6 TDs 24 Interception (Hall of Fame) Baker Mayfield 63.8% completions, 27 TDs 14 Interceptions (NFL Journeyman)

The OL has been fair to worse, the WRs are simply not getting open, and Bryce is getting toyed with by some strong DCs

I personally think Shaq is a bit overpaid and overrated. Not strong in coverage and he gets lost at times. Some love him, I get that, but I have not visibly seen anything close to Beason, Morgan, Mills, or Luke-

Aside from this, has anyone noticed how DB hustles? He makes a lot of tackles out wide (as with screen passes, for example) and the announcers seem rather oblivious to it. I love the player, and think he is worth the $$ to sign him to a long term deal.

If we decide to keep the football while on offense this week, we should be able to win. I worry (as I did before the draft, during the summer, and throughout preseason) about our secondary. Let's hope Jackson can at least stay off IR until Horn returns. Too much to ask? Panthers 20 Saints 19

That bothers me too, but then I think, "Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield...." and I don't feel so bad. They will undoubtedly (the way Fields is playing so far) be moving up to get a top 2 QB

MEANWHILE, Patrick Surtain remains one of the dominant shut down CBs in the NFL. Curse of the black cat

ANy word on who is playing LG? I am busy and could not read every thread---

The think that bothered me is when he hesitated on a deep route-not his forte, I get that, but what is? Any WR knows that once you reveal your route to the DB, it is a sprint to gain separation. To me, that suggested he is not getting it mentally. Why hesitate on a deep route? He was not expecting the ball, maybe? Not the kind of thinking we need. Otherwise, he is very inconsistent. He flashes at times, but they all do. I would rather see the WR we just signed getting time, honestly.

How this could benefit the Panthers in the long run: (Thank me later for being the voice of constant optimism and hope) 1. Zavala moves to LG, his "natural position." He never looks back. BC had a PFF score of 56 or so last year--weakest link. 2. Panthers can put Mays at RG, giving him valuable experience over the next 3 games until Corbett returns. Note: By week 5, we have 2 starting guards and a backup. Perhaps Christensen returns and there is no place for him. GOOD! 3. BC has the athleticism to play OT, so you play him as the backup swing T-focusing on the right side. 4. In 2024, Moton's contract swells to $30m. Maybe you can trade him this season before the trade deadline (risky, I know) and move BC to starting RT. Note: You saved $30m, upgraded at RG, and you have not lost a lot at RT if BC reaches his potential. With the $30m in savings, you could probably sign a pretty good CB (Jackson is walking in 2024 as well) and WR. While I like Moton, I do not see the logic behind giving him $30m when a team on a playoff run is likely to overpay before the trade deadline.

I questioned the Sanders signing--any RB playing behind one of the best OLs in football....

I thought it was an acl so I will take it. A Hamstring can take from 1-6 weeks, and there are different assessments of the severity--so I wonder if this is some reporter needing clicks or if they know for sure?

In fairness, we have Henderson, a player who quietly leads the league in cushion allowed

If he is healthy--this would be nice.

Thanks. Funny how that was not newsworthy.

They went after him twice--when there is 10 yards to go for a first down and the WR catches the pass at 12 yards, then the CB takes 2 steps before making contact, his cushion is way too large. CJ was out of position on the PI call-lost and had no chance to make a play. I see your point about the call, but if he were not penalized, he was still lost.