MHS831

this has to be the plan-there needs t be competition

I think a pass rusher would be hard to get--so I have not mentioned it. i also think that our two young OLBs are showing some signs. It is tough to figure out. Is it scheme? Are we predictable? However, I don't see us upgrading by adding a Reddick (sheer luck) by next week.

I see that,but my focus is broader, which changes the logic (unless I am missing something here). If you like Rico and trade Hubbard, you don't have to let Rico go--you could sign him, have Etienne and Brooks and maybe even a late round draft pick--but you get an ILB, which is our biggest weakness--which is my point. If you isolate your focus on RB only and you focus on next year, it makes little sense to trade Hubbard--to me, you upgrade LB right now and you have RBs. I think we are constantly in rebuild or build mode, we don't think like those seeking rings. What helps us more--(and I am not sure about Hubbard's trade value, which was part of your point)--a backup RB (solid but still a backup right now) or a starting ILB? Which player fills our needs? So I could argue your point, but there are other perspectives that should be considered if you broaden the scope. It is not a no-brainer--lotta variables.

A good GM is always looking to upgrade the roster--a fire sale? No. But if there is a LB there who can tackle and cover.... I would argue that the WR room looks solid and is not expensive right now. The OL is probably not an area to tinker with. RB? I am a believer in the premise that you do not give RBs lucrative second contracts in most cases--so if we can trade a Hubbard to get a decent LB---I say, YUP. We ride the Rico hot hand, Etienne is a good reserve, and Brooks MIGHT be able to play in 2026. Smart move to lose a little and gain a lot.

damn. I thought my idea was original)

I was not engaged at that time, and I looked up and saw the close up. He did seem out of place, and I wondered why he did not get out of the way-- Great point--was it a direct snap and Chuba missed the call...?

My concerns? XL still doesn't understand the concept of a sideline and he has yet to break out in year 3...I think it was (according to the announcer) Corbett at center who hit Chuba in the arm with the snap--I was away, but not sure why he was at C. Our LB play was terrible. Buffalo messed with them all day--they seemed confused. Not sure what our DL was doing. And safeties missed a ton of tackles that led to big plays. I did not watch that closely, but it seems Coker should be the #2.

I agree with you--but I was not implying that he threw the game--he is bad enough to play and not have to compromise his integrity.

Interception to a guy five feet away, fumble on a key drive, drive killing and TD screwing passes, taking a sack when rookies know to get rid of the ball---Giving away plays at the LOS-- Andy Dalton alone has cost the Panthers at least 14 points and has give Buffalo 6.

Yeah, Dalton, that extra yard was worth the risk.

they were going to go for it on fourth down--hence the run

2nd and 5 is better than 2nd and 8. Just my thoughts.

But what about the over/under? (Kidding--but this is telling)

It is really difficult...Darnold and Baker did not get good, the found a system and supporting cast...Traditionally, we do not have a system in which QBs tend to prosper. I don't like having a QB room that is not competitive. In my view, you draft a QB and then you keep trying to beat him out with newer qbs...when they cost $240m, you do not settle by paying a mediocre qb that kinda money. You find a qb you'd gladly pay that much for.

Lost respect for him in the LSU loss. Not an alpha. I really think you need an Alpha.

ANd you have to look at the financials--he will be in line for a $50m per contract--we can't be on the fence then. Here is the rub. For Bryce to be good, you need an elite OL, solid RB (s), and quite an investment at WR. Best to have a D that keeps the opposition under 21 points per game. Not sure we can afford a mediocre qb who is not dual threat and completes a low percentage of passes that are usually pretty short. His processing is not quick. His arm is not average. He is not an alpha.

Not that I am frequently right, but I wanted Jones. The scheme and supporting cast makes all the difference.

Corbett is almost 30, oft-injured, and sucks in pass pro--with a 5'9" QB, we need better. I don't understand the Corbett love, frankly.

He has done nothing but improve every year and he can play anywhere. In my view, average vs the pass and good at run blocking--make this guy your starting center and give him a contract. he is 26- could be our center for the next 5-7 years.

He was last year too.

Best RB tandem in Panther history (at least for a few weeks)

Moose Muhammad, part deux

Bryce played behind 3 subs on the OL--hats off to him and Dowdle. Hats off to BC, Nijman, and Mays. Bryce had a TE out, Coker was out, and TMac gave the Cowboys a pick that led to a TD. Bryce needs a running game. The DL seems to be coming together. I think the S play was bad and the LBs are who they are. I am not a Bryce fan yet, but his last 2 games have me on the fence when I was leaning towards the tar and pitchfork crowd . hoping for the best.