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My bad. No wonder I missed 8 of 13 questions. I was rushing a bit--but no excuse. I should have checked the date. I did not take it myself until late last night. We had a family crisis and I was rushing to get this out before leaving. Abort Quiz. Happy Draft Day, regardless. I am seeing a lot of last second mocks showing Legette to Pats at 32.

Probably already been stated, but Canales was asked about it--said, (paraphrasing) "Yeah, I told him that. I told about 50 others that too. Part of the process." I think both Legette and Walker would love to stay home.

think about it--we added starters at G, G, X WR, and (in a weird way) C. That is 4/11 positions on offense. On defense, we have already added Robinson (DE), Clowney and Wonnum (OLBs), Jewell (ILB), Jackson (CB), and Fuller (S). If you consider the fact that we are getting Thompson back from IR, that makes 7/11 new starters on defense. Only Horn and Hill (CBs), Tuttle (DT) and Brown (DE) are returning starters. We could use a nickel and depth at CB, a "dawg" LB to play behind our 30-year-old ILBs, and I am not sure how they feel about edge. On offense, we could upgrade Mingo, Chubba, and TE. If I had to pick the top 3 needs in relation to this draft, I would go (Considering who we have and how much a rookie would upgrade the position-even if it is in a reserve role): 1. Nickel CB (Hill is 33 and Horn is hurt all the time. Not much behind them. 2. ILB depth (the new Kickoff rule will value linebackers, in my opinion) 3. Z Receiver (Mingo had a decent season under these circumstances as a rookie--43 receptions on 83 yards, however, is not ideal. Could mean separation is an issue, or timing. Still, I think they should start him at the beginning of the year at least. A third round-fifth round WR like Rice, Walker, McCaffery etc. who can compete with Mingo but take over the slot role in 2025 could be to move here. Instead of putting the #33rd pick on the seventh or eighth best WR, use those picks to fill other more pressing needs. We have 2 good, established WRs who have had 1000 yard seasons. Mingo had 418 yards as a rookie. WR is a need, but are we blowing it out of proportion? 1

After watching the 360 program on NFL Network (I think), I am emotionally drawn to drafting UNC's Walker. Here is why: He has the tools. His critics complain about his route running. After all he'd been through, I wonder if he ever really had a coach work on mechanics. Canales wants the staff to be developmental. Walker would appreciate being in Charlotte for his grandma--think that is a small deal? Watch the video. We may be the team best equipped to maximize his potential. Not in the second round, but the third? Add what Lomabardi said about the best WRs in the NFL not being from the first round--Walker could be a steal in the third.

I feel better about Corbett being the center.

Which seems to have worked with discarded QBs.

Same page--I wonder (to his point) if Walker, Rice, and Pearsall don't outperform the first round bunch (excluding the three Amigo WRs Rome, Harrison, and Nabors). I feel like they are going to draft a CB/LB early and we should double dip at WR--but what if you took Rice and McCaffery, for example, instead of Worthy and McCorley? If we take Worthy and McCorley, we miss out on the LB/CBs. If we take LB, OL, CB early and take advantage of the draft by understanding that rounds 3 and 4 have some guys who might be better fits into our system? That is the Twist I got from this video. This is going to be very interesting.

I think all of us keep having our rookie years. Hard to predict. That is why this draft is fun--we get to learn a bit about Morgan (hopefully a Tepperless version) and the coaches.

The Lombardi video I posted in another thread a few minutes ago--Lombardi says, "You want to know what a team is going to do, look at the depth chart." He also mentioned how only 27% of first round WRs succeed and how most of the good WRs in the NFL were day 2 and 3 players in the draft? We have 2 30-year old ILBs (Jewell and Thompson). Not much behind them at all. LB is a huge need. At CB, we have oft-injured Horn, Dane Jackson, and 33-year old Troy Hill at nickel. Not much behind them. At WR, we have Johnson (a decent X), Thielen (a solid slot in his last year), and Mingo, a second year player at Z. Behind them, we have Smith Marsette and MAYBE TMJ. We could use a player to challenge Mingo and/or to groom for the slot position. I contend that this is not as big of a need early as LB or CB. We could argue that C is in the cards.

The depth chart tells you all you need to know (about what a team is going to do). Basically says the players we think are first rounders don't matter--what player does the team think they can get the most out of--(inference: upside and match for the system) Noted that WRs are the toughest to evaluate--said the best WRs in the NFL are second and third day (or round) players. Note that first round WRs hit 27% of the time. (Chart below). Based on our needs and the fact that we cannot afford to miss, drafting WRs early is dangerous. It seems to me that Pearsall, Rice, McCaffery, and maybe even Dez Walker might be better risks--according to this logic. I found this to be interesting: (Makes me want to draft C at 33.

VERY interesting look at the behind-the-scenes look at draft. This changed my perspective. Gotta listen to what he says about WRs--makes me want to draft WR later.

This is a two-part quiz that takes 5 minutes to take--if you need modification, they are available. Once you submit the answers to the first 2 questions (3 total answers) you take the USA Today online NFL Draft Quiz. Complete the template below in your response. Later tonight (after 8 pm), I will share the answers to the first two questions--please do not share your results until after 8 PM. Obviously, if you choose not to participate, just don't participate and leave the replies for those who want to do this. (Honor system--Googling is CHEATING) 1. Franchises with the most #1 picks in NFL History (2 are correct), so this counts as 2 points, 1 for each correct answer: a) Bucs b) Jets c) Colts d) Rams e) Oilers/Titans 2. How many #1 overall picks for the teams above were the most in NFL history? a) 3 b) 5 c) 6 d) 7 e) 9 OK for the next 10 questions, go to the link and take the 10 question online quiz. Report your answers for the 2 questions above and the number correct from your online quiz. https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2021/11/01/nfl-draft-history-trivia-quiz/ SCALE: 12-13 correct: Draft Royalty - you probably cheated though. 10-11 correct: Stud. Your brain is full of useless information. 8-9 correct: Mr. or Mrs. Mediocre, which has probably been your goal for some time. 6-7 correct: Snorkeler: You can't quite reach the surface of the NFL knowledge pool, but you are close. 4-5 correct: Life Support Recipient. The people around you are Huddlers voting when to pull the plug. 0-3 correct: Blue Tent Dweller. You scored below random chance, meaning a toddler or monkey could have done better. Stay in the blue tent. The team is doing well without your input. There is a non-monetary reward and consequence for being the top and low score. All in fun.

The Harbaugh Chargers will be interesting. Harbaugh likes to build the OL, but he could be sitting on Nabors at #5. He can't take Alt when a stud like Nabors is sitting at a position of need. He also needs a LT--There is a chance that either or both Tyler Guyton (OK) and/or Jordan Morgan (Ariz) is sitting there at #33. I could see a trade with the Chargers wherein we drop from 33 to 37 and add a fourth or fifth. That may not sound dramatic, but this draft has some solid players late (CB is remarkably deep, as is WR).

Very good points. I also think you reach an age where your enthusiasm wanes, you quit learning and start relying on experience, and you lose touch with the younger generations of players--it happens. And you are right about Bryce. He is frustrated and he took a ton of heat--I can't imagine where he was mentally, but I have some idea. Bryce is very smart-he needs to beat teams with his mind more than his arm. He could not play chess when everyone around him was a confused pawn. This season, he will use more motion to tip coverages and he will use more pre-snap reads. Than means he should not be breaking the huddle with 12 seconds on the play clock and rushing to get the play off--there are so many things that can impact a QB's play, and there are many signs that he was provided the least possible chance to succeed. In my view, this is his rookie season. Last year was a fire drill.

best case scenario is he does well and at age 30, they give him a 2-3 year deal. We will be needing a RT next season, in my view, so ideally, we would not want a 40% overhaul. I am not one who thinks Cade Mays is hot garbage--I think he could become a solid backup. Funny, when we draft players late we call them "developmental" but when they are forced into action before they are ready, we want them gone--we have less patience for the developmental players than we do first rounders.

We will know more after the draft, I assume. But I see your points. As a former OL coach for a few high schools, I have a very basic knowledge of OL play. However, I was saying all season that Campen was not doing a good job because there were signs. Ickey's lack of mechanical development, missed assignments, and head spinning. Head spinning is when you have no idea where your block is coming from--film study and coaching should tell you, "If the DT stunts inside, maintain inside out gap control...If the LB takes a false step into coverage but keeps his head focused on the QB, he is likely on a delayed blitz..." Just examples, but we were so easy to fool. The A gaps were tremendously laughable last year. Campen was to blame. Having said that, based on what this article says, it seems Corbett is a film rat and maybe that will translate well. The OL must communicate. I think we draft a C in the fifth round. Calling it--the kid from Penn State maybe?

They act as if this is a game of musical chairs. Corbett needs to be able to do the job. He is 29 and learning a new position. I am confident that they are confident, but I do not think this rules out drafting a C late. I should note that Cade Mays was at different schools and played various positions. I think if he is given one position and learns as much as possible this year, he could be better than most here envision. I just don't get spending $150m at G, a $30m RT, and a first round draft pick LT and then saying, "Let's experiment at C" They must have more information than we do.

The more I think about it, I would not be surprised to see them draft Legette (WR) and Saintrisil (CB) in round 2. I would think they will go after a LB in round 3. After that, I expect a slot WR at 101. A RB and maybe a C in the fifth round. I saw NFL Network interview Jackson Powell Johnson (C) from Oregon--and if a player like him is there, we take the C and the CB in round 2. (After doing some thinking, I think there is something to the Panthers taking Saintrisil to start at Nickel with pick 33. They do not want him falling to 37 for his former coach to pick...I hated the idea when I heard it, but I get it. I never would have considered it, but I understand the pick in terms of a dawg on D and and a player who starts (at nickel) day 1. I am not sold on Legette--are they giving the X job to Johnson and want some competition for Mingo at the Z position? Gonna be drama.

These few days of practice will tell Canales what he needs. If Mingo has developed and shows signs of being able to play the Z, we could go F or slot WR in the draft--there are some 4 WR sets and this is probably Thielen's last season here anyway. We could draft 2 as well. No guarantees Johnson returns for 2025.

My post answers this question quite thoroughly. What is the point in trashing him? Does it make you feel better? Nobody is in disagreement about his play needing to improve and that starts with the OL, WRs, coaching, etc. If he still can't get it done, he will be replaced. I have been endorsing a trade down to add a second rounder in the 2025 draft so that we can move up if we need to for a QB next year. That is covering the reality that he might not be the answer, but I also know that blaming him and ignoring the conditions he was asked to perform in is not fair to him. Give him his tools.

It could, indirectly. My question to you is, do you perform better under constant criticism or constant support? Support him--that is not hard. If the fan base stews in negativity all year, it gets into the water and everyone starts thinking the QB is the anti-Christ based on reputation and hearsay. Do you think players do not know how the public feels about them? He has a pretty good excuse, and all players have mechanical issues they could improve. Yes, he is short. No he did not have a good season last year. Turn the page. If he does not work out, we will move on---what is the point in the constant belittlement? However, it has reached the point where Huddlers think they know more that the coaches and management--Newsflash--we don't. In toxic cultures, the first time he makes a mistake all the haters at the stadium get loud to vindicate their opinions---I was right!! in other words. We all know the situation. What point is there in trashing a 23-year old kid who was asked to perform in outrageous situations? Support him. I guess it could say more about the critic than the target.

Most rookie QB bust. However, as a fan, you have to decide, "Am I going to support him, or throw him under the bus?" You have a right to do either, although I might reconsider the use of the word "fan" here.

awareness is good. Nice plan.

I would be partying in May if this was our draft. For some reason, I do not think Pearsall is getting the respect he deserves. Tampa is solid. In my mocks, I go for 2 CBs (nickel and outside depth)--but then again, I live on the edge.

I am not sure that you can compare this draft to those of recent memory. This is a loaded draft, and if you ever were to trade down, this would be the draft. However, if your scouts suck and your GM is an idiot, as was the case in the past, trading back only opens the door for hindsight experts to go back in a year or two and start the "We coulda had..." process. I think we can drop and add a third or so and do well, but until the cards start hitting the table, it is hard to say right now.