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Yes, we are really targeting special teams and Offense this year, but he could play the position Jones manned this past year. I wish I knew more about it, but people said basically the same thing about Jones.

When I open a thread like this, I read the first post (OC) and then I skip about 5 because I know there will be the critical, uninformative, unsupported zingers from people who are simply trying to dazzle us all with their quick wit. Interesting signing. Remember, we have a good db coach.

Boykin had over 600 yards his second season. It is said that he ran a 4.74 at the combine, but he ran a 4.58 at his pro day. There may be something there. Bersin, Cotchery are possibly positions that could be upgraded.

With a decent QB, they could be the second best team in the South. Sad, but true.

The Bucs are the team to watch--but we are the team to beat. I like Kalil, Norwell, and Turner.

Some of you just gravitate toward the bad boys. You think you can save them from themselves. You think there will be some payoff or that you are above others because you think a change of scenery entitles a person to a clean slate. Or you blame youth for all of the person's indiscretions, as if our youth has nothing to do with who we are. Sure, some change for the better, but for the most part, most don't--especially when you give them millions. Look at Hardy--he was here 4 years and he bought assault rifles, wrecked a motorcycle, photographed his speedometer going 100+, and dated a girl using crack. (Bbbut, but, nothing was proven in court!--shut up. He is soooo innocent, no team in the NFL wants him). Look at Thomas Davis, who never had character issues in college. Look at Luke, who never had character issues in college. We count on them. We have drafted time bombs before. Mike Goodson comes to mind. I was standing beside a 15-year old girl at an OTA and he hit on her. You know the rest of the story. What about Hogan from WVU? Good investment. In fact, I can't think of 1 player with serious character issues that ever panned out--but let's draft some thug on probation who can't keep a roster spot on a college team. HALF of the first rounders drafted do not pan out. Why reduce those odds by taking a player who is an emotional, maturational, ethical coin toss?

It's March. Lotta bitching without a lot of practical solutions. This is not Madden. Does anyone have any idea how many teams have LTs the fans are happy with? They are hard to find and expensive. Some are like homeless kids bitching to their Mom because they can't buy a pair of the new $230 Jordans. We all agree that we need to bolster the tackle positions.

About Bell and Chandler--Rivera was high on them, but we really were broke and had no money to address the pricey OT position. I think they squirmed through a season of watching those 2 get humiliated every week and know that the have to do something this year. Oher is phase 1 of a process. He has experience and they feel they can protect Cam with him, and I am sure Matsko had a loud voice in that process. Nobody knows Bell and Oher better than our OL coach. Many teams do not like their LT--about as many who do not like their QB. They are hard to find. Over the past 2 seasons, 10 OTs were drafted before the 20th pick in each draft. 2 were successful starters in 2014. So, don't think the answer is in the draft. They might develop into good players, but they need a year or two. I do not see how Gettlemen ignores OT in the draft. However, you have to protect Cam to win.

I agree with you, but I don't think he had a choice. If I am not mistaken, it was Rivera that had faith in Bell and his left hand. Gettlemen may have erred by trusting his coach's estimation of Bell. Even if not, we were still in cap hell. I think Gettlemen's goal was to get totally out of cap hell before Cam's rookie contract expired. It was never to be a 1-year process, especially when you have 3-4 year bad contracts to wade through. Offensive Tackle is an expensive position to fix--like QB. When we went with Bell, we were basically like the Browns having to go with Hoyer. Hope he doesn't hurt you while you are building. This is the year we address OT. Last year, the draft did not present a T he liked--he admitted that. Collins (now cut) was the best free agent. He did not have options or money. Oher is an upgrade. If Matsko can work his magic, he could do the job.

Maybe we should notice that Gettlemen is spending $$ on Known quantities. 10 re-signed players, Ted Ginn, and now Oher, a player our OL coach knew. He is not grasping at straws, chasing big names of the past, etc.

Ignoring cap issues, are we? Tackle is an expensive position to address properly.

Probably has already been said, but Crabtree has a rep for having a negative attitude. I am liking the rookie pool right now.

We had no money, so you have to make the best of nothing. I am sure he would rather have brought in a stud LT, but he couldn't say that in the press. They knew what they had and hoped they would make the most of it. Note that Gettlemen says that Oher "CAN" not "WILL". Look for an OT in the draft.

We all know that Oher is probably not intelligent. How he is taught is perhaps more important than with other players. For example, some players need repetition, some don't respond to yelling or negative comments, etc. I think there is a very good reason for his decline, and it isn't physical, except for the injury in Tennessee. Trust DG.

Dave finds gems in the dumpster better than anyone. This is his job and my hobby. I am getting on board and getting excited about this.

"You can't coach 6-5, 240." - Dave Gettleman DGB 's probation officer will be sad to hear that.

You hit on the benefit for the Rams--cap space. That is why I think they won this deal. I also like Foles better, but I see both sides of that coin.

Tennessee has to be sitting there at #2 waiting for trade offers. Mariota is going #2 overall--we just don't know what team

All I can figure is if they want to turn him into an H-back or something.

Weird. More of a 3-4 guy in my mind. Better than Addison?

I would feel less secure if Hurney were the GM. I am betting that we draft a DE and a WR in the first 2 rounds.

You have to look at the big picture. The draft is loaded at WR, RB, CB (not elite, but solid players). The draft is not so loaded at TE, LT (most players have an asterisk), QB, LB, and S. Why spend in areas where we can find talent in the draft if we have a limited amount of $$? Our money should be spent where we can't find good free agents. Just my opinion. I think Jaelen Strong, for example, is better than either of the players you mention and i think he would be cheaper.

I don't think people on this thread were doing anything more than reacting and discussing a rumor. It is what people do on discussion boards. That does not make anyone stupid.

I hear Gettlemen likes that DE from UCLA named Owambagjde Owkeokonozwa (spelling could be off a bit--not googling it). If we do not land a DE in free agency, it Gman could pull the trigger in the first or second rounds again.

Bersin has good hands and catches over the middle. Well said.