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MHS831

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  1. Thanks for providing the quote that summed up this thread so beautifully. I teared up when I read it.
  2. Cleveland all browns--how can they not feel like turds in those? That would be as bad as a peach-colored pant/jersey/helmet combo with a scrotum pouch hand warmer. I wonder how bad Tampa Bay feels, because their uniforms still suck more than any other team in any sport.
  3. Before I tell you this, remember, it is the off season-- My wife is from the Cleveland area, so I watched the Channel 5 unveiling show. They talked about it for 30 minutes. At the unveiling, there were about 5000 people in attendance. Then they cane out in huge orange parkas (9 players) and dropped them, and began to break into body-builder poses for lack of anything else to do. They loved them. They better copyright that color scheme. Nicknames: fudge badgers, blood turds, crap patrol, sewer demons, Brown toilet trouts....I am still working on others.
  4. http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/2015-uniform-reveal.html 9 variations. The orange is redder, the brown is blacker.
  5. I guarantee that I can accurately predict 50% of matchups specific to each date.
  6. The only thing I can add to the thought process is this (assuming it has not already been stated) : There are usually only a few positions people are willing to move up for in the first round of the draft--they are the positions that are hard to find--LOT, QB, pass rushers, shut-down CB, and that is about it. If you look at this draft, there is one CB who may be worth moving up for, but doubtful he is there at 16-20 (Waynes). We don't need a QB, and again, no way one is there at 16-20. So, my theory would suggest that they have their eye on a pass rusher or LT. When a 4-3 team says, Pass rusher, we are thinking DE. I see the 3-4 DEs and OLBs, but who are the 4-3 DEs who will be there at 16 but not at 25? I just don't see one that they would covet that much. If correct, that leaves OT--Left Tackle. As far as projecting people to either side of the ball, we can't say--the crackheads with blogs and websites (no offense, Jeremy) don't know either. In this draft, 3 of the top LT candidates were ROTs for the most part in college. Last year, the only first round draft pick LT to play well was a RT at Tennessee. So we should forget about assuming we know best--we don't. Personally, I think the Tackles will drop and the panthers will never make the trade. Let's look at the top T prospects: Scherff (could he be the guy? He is being projected as a G and most are saying top 10, but that is what they said about DeCastro a few years ago, who was also a top 10 projection. He fell to about 23) may not even be the first OL to go. I do not see Flowers or Peat in the top 15, and I genuinely think Collins falls into the later picks of the first. If the OTs start coming off the board around 15, then there are 10 selections before the Panthers pick. Peat Flowers Collins Scherff Is Sherff on our board? I have no idea, but I don't get why everyone calls him a G and Collins a T. Then you have the second wave, if you can call them that: Clemmings Ogbuehi Humphries Fisher So Hatter seems to be all over it---it just makes sense that they are after Peat or Flowers, but I think Peat is the better player.
  7. That is true. I think, since RB has been devalued, that this fan base has forgotten what an elite RB can do because it has never really had an elite RB--Stew and DWIll had a few good seasons, but I am talking about AP/Beat Mode good. You could argue that Stephen Davis was close to elite, and you see where that got us.
  8. Here is the fallacy-- we are ranking players by using the "experts" online player rankings. I will be honest--I am not smart enough to grade compare a CB to a DT to a WR--there is a lot that depends on scheme, need, chemistry, etc. Then we toss in combine statistics and interviews that we know nothing about. We as fans may align what we read by team needs, but to actually evaluate the player's ability based on how that player "fits" the Panthers and then rank that player among players the Panthers do not need or skill sets that are not good fits for the Panthers, it really falls back on assuming good college players will be as effective in the pros--in due time. So when I see someone act as if they know who the top 20 picks will be, for example, I chuckle. It is fun to guess, but nobody knows. While Gregory (for example) could be a great addition for another team, he would probably suck here. So Gettlemen probably has him much lower on his board than New Orleans would. If all the boards are different, and teams have different needs, and most adhere to a "BPA" approach--how does anyone know who is better than whom?
  9. I don't see it either, but I was going on some comment Gettlemen made around February. I have not even been researching them. Gonna be a fun one to watch unfold, that is for sure. As for the other posters talking about predictions--I predicted Thomas Davis and Luke Kuechly. Those are about the only two (aside from Cam) I have guessed correctly. This year, I see Collins and Thompson as defensive possibilities, with Flowers and Strong the offensive possibilities.
  10. He probably discusses tentative, hypothetical deals with those teams in the event the draft unfolds in a manner that makes him want to jump up. Instead of going for a player projected to be there at 16-20, he could be considering options in the event a top 10 player falls to 16, for example.
  11. I am assuming OT, but Collins could be the target. And nobody is thinking DE....
  12. If McCoy is qualified to tell me what another man thinks, then I would believe it. Until then, why is he talking about another team's head coach?
  13. He ran 4.64 at the combine, and with his instincts, I think he would be a great "in the box" SS. However, I think he has the ability to cover as well. He is, in my opinion, the best all-around football player in this draft and I think people will regret passing on him in a year or two. I would take him and find a place. Let's not underestimate what he would mean to special teams either. When Davis starts to decline, I may look at Shaq at SLB if he wants to play there then (I am guessing 2-3 years). However, I think he would fix the weakest part of our defense (SS) with elite talent.
  14. If you are going to attempt to analyze the Panthers, then know the GM. We are not taking head cases. I do not care about the talent, and neither does Gettlemen. I just wish people would let it go. No Turds will be drafted by us.
  15. What would you do with him if we drafted him?
  16. I can see one scenario--Draft Shaq Thompson. He could play some SS and WLB until Davis starts to slow, when he becomes the SLB and Davis moves to WLB to stretch his career. Gettlemen said he was looking to 2016, so Shaq, Luke, and Davis is a pretty solid LB corps.
  17. Good question. I think the lack of familiarity with Cam was the biggest problem. My dad called it "peeking", when you slow or soften your cuts to look back at the qb too soon. Benjamin had one year (I think) of college ball, and Brown was not exactly in a pro-set passing offense. I think they will improve dramatically this year, as you say.
  18. I agree--Benjamin comes to mind. People don't want to hear that, but he was not a good route runner.
  19. If Hardy had a good workout with the Panthers, I am guessing that he will be sitting higher on their board than most. His work ethic interests me. I mean, if you look at all the WRs taken in 2004, eight in the first round (I think--it was considered the richest WR draft in draft history at the time), Wes Welker-, a hard-working, sure-handed, smallish route runner who went undrafted, is second only to Larry Fitzgerald in that draft class in terms of career production. Welker wasn't drafted.
  20. My father caught 37 passes for USC during his sophomore year before blowing out his knee. He ran a 4.9 back in the day before they passed on first and second down. I played in college and he was my personal trainer and coach (had no choice) and he used to preach three things: 1. Setting up the db by trying to get his feet out of position as you go into your cut (speed not required). 2. Dropping your shoulder and snapping/exploding out of the cut 3. hand positioning and burst during the first 2 steps out of the cut He said it is more chess game than race. He constantly used Jerry Rice as his example, even before Rice was Jerry Rice. He said, "That guy gets it." He used to point at the TV during instant replays and make me notice the little nuances in his routes. I was thinking "If he is that good, why didn't he go to a bigger school than Mississippi Valley State Tech community college?" Of course, he used to say this: Hands are the most important thing because catching the ball is job. If you don't do that, getting open just embarrasses you more. So hands, route running, blocking, speed are probably the order of importance. Funny how teams overlook the first three.
  21. I have said the same thing. To extend your point, how many WRs whose speed is their most impressive attribute become elite WRs? Very few. Give me 4.55 and good hands any day. Michael Irving said, "When are you going to run full speed anyway? The route starts after the break--that has nothing to do with 40 speed because the start is where most fast guys get the low numbers.
  22. This may have already been said--not reading entire thread to find out--but this Dilbert was writing a companion article to another crackhead they allow to draw a check who wrote an article about teams who WOULD make the playoffs in 2015. That idiot had both Atlanta and New Orleans going. It is amazing to see how many professionals know nothing about the panthers. If it were my full time job, I could tell who the ball boys are for every team in the league.
  23. Kiper on Stephen Hill (had him going in the first round to the Niners) -- " Hill is the biggest home-run threat in the draft when you combine his speed and size, and it's no secret the 49ers need some help at wide receiver, even with the additions of Randy Moss and Mario Manningham. He'll need an adjustment period as he gets used to doing more in terms of scheme than he was asked at Georgia Tech, but he's the kind of weapon this offense needs to expand." Now, I hope Kiper is right about the adjustment period, but his eye for talent does not exceed the boundaries of the internet scouts.
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