MHS831

I am on the same page, but trades scare me. #2 NY Jets--How many teams need a QB? If the Jets get Watson, what do they do with the #2 pick? Trade it. They don't really need a LT, and Sewell (arguably) is the only non QB worth it. I think they trade out. Who moves into the #2 spot? I do not think there is a QB worth the #2 pick with Trevor off the board. #3 Miami--they could trade out too. I do not see a QB here, but I see WR Chase LSU, T Sewell, Ore, maybe Parsons MLB if Miami stays. #4 Atlanta--Total wild card, but if I am the GM, I look at needs--DEFENSE, WR, OL---Salary cap. So if I think I have a year or two left in Ryan, I am going to possibly trade back and meet some needs on defense and OL, and then take a developmental QB later. I just do not see #5 Cincinnati--Here, if Sewell drops, this is a no brainer. However, I also think they could take WR Chase LSU here. Of course, trading back is an option. #6 Philadelphia-- I am not certain that the new coach wants a new QB, and Wentz could/should get a look in a new system. I am guessing that the Eagles could also be a trade back candidate, especially if 3 QBs are gone, but assuming that is not the case, a WR in Philly is sorely needed if you want Wentz to get better. #7 Detroit---Of course they are drafting a QB. If the Lions fall in love with a QB early in the draft, they could move up. If the Panthers want a QB, they probably need to leapfrog the Lions to get their man. There is no way the Lions do not take a QB in the draft-- So my take on this, even though nobody asked? Round 1--picks 2-7 are going to be WIDE OPEN. I see a scenario where all 4 QBs go in the top 5 or 6 picks. I do not see too many scenarios where there will be 2 of the top 4 QBs at #8. We stuck it to those WFTs! Prognosis: Too unclear to project. Key factor?: The Senior Bowl. What if we fall in love with Trask? (example).

Here is the key stat for QB-starved teams: (all #s according to Spotrac) SALARY CAP PROJECTIONS #2 overall: Colts, with about $68m #3 overall: Jets, with about $65m #4 overall: New England with about $55m #9 overall: Washington with about $32m So the Jets have $65m and the #2 overall pick. They get anyone they want after Lawrence. The Colts, Patriots, WFT all need QBs. They know they are not getting a top 4 QB, so expect them to go after Watson and Stafford. The 49ers and Dolphins also have more cap space than Carolina. I look at the CMC and Thompson contracts as the reason we are in this shape; so we get a slightly-above average LB and a RB instead of a QB. So why was Marty fired again?

In my opinion, I do not see them bringing in another big contract. With Teddy, a rookie deal is manageable. So if we were to take in Stafford, a move I think makes us an instant contender, we would have to renegotiate some contracts--mainly Stafford's.

I would trade them a bad contract--like Shaq--but I do not think he gets released--Indy, Washington, New England--they all need a QB---but who knows?

Trade Thompson to Detroit--they need help on D.

I think we will trade up---teams at the back of the draft that need QB will go after Stafford and give up a lot. Why do I sense Indy making a deal with Detroit? Or New England? Washington?

The culture we built for whooping a nameless team with a bust QB in a meaningless game.

What round were the bottom 4 drafted in? I can't recall.

ticket sales already up.

Pitcher was Al Downing. He gave up 714 in Cincinnati to Jack Billingham. I was a kid, an avid Reds fan, but I loved Aaron and followed his quest to brake Babe's record from when he had about 650--he was on the cover of Boy's Life mag. and my uncle had a copy.

True Story--when I was a little kid, my Dad took me to see Atlanta and the Dodgers play a series in Atlanta. I saw Aaron hit homer #726. During the game, he was running in from outfield and I went down to the seats by the dugout and yelled "Hank Aaron!" and he looked at me--I was waving at him; he waved back and kind of smiled. That night, I was bored so I was riding the elevators and running around the hotel, the gift shop, the pool, etc. I was walking down the hallway by the dining area, and two men in suits were walking slowly toward the dining room, closed for a banquet. Between them was an old woman that I recognized from TV earlier that day. I said, "Hello Mrs. Ruth," and she smiled and waved. I walked on by, not thinking it was a big deal that in one day, Hank Aaron and Mrs. Babe Ruth waved at me.

Next week they are bringing in a Long Snapper/Kicker. He's fast.

Are they not all bust potential? I see your point though--but I think his reading from the pocket and quick release can be difference makers. Not sold on Wilson if we have to give up a bunch of picks. So happy we beat WFT week 16. Hang that banner.

Funny how people act as if suddenly becoming a millionaire celebrity at age 22 should have no impact on your maturity. These athletes are put on a pedestal--many from poor homes---and suddenly surrounded by fame and fortune. They have never failed in sports--always the best athlete on the field, and that is what they believe they are. So much depends on the athlete's support system. I expect this coaching staff to kick the tires on a lot a players that we would call "damaged goods".

Did anyone say "Shaq?" One of our highest paid players. Chinn CMC

This is a handout job. A hook up. He will be in charge of gravity.

I prefer to draft a QB as well, but how many drafted QBs succeed? How many teams need a QB and how many quality QBs are in the draft? Due diligence-- for those who think we should explore all options and have more than 1 plan that could unravel in 4 picks.

Me too.

His playing style could mean he has a Brady/Rivers length career. So he could have 5 years left in him and he has been better late in his career than in the beginning. Protect him, and he stays healthy--that is true for all QBs. Let's say we get 5 years out of him--is it worth it? We only got 6 productive years out of Cam.

So you are now making the rules of engagement? Report me--I am actually being nice right now. If you want this to be between you and the poster, then get off a public discussion board. Dude.

And Stafford's playing style could mean 5 more years--he could go to age 38 or even longer if protected. Cam had about 6 good years, to put that in perspective.

If you cannot attack points with facts, do not attack the poster. If you think any misfire on any pick is a reason to denounce all of their points after that, then you think all GMs are "dumb as hell." Yet you offer no insights of your own-

I am doing math in my head--dangerous--but it seems that Watson to NYJ would help our chances of trading up later than #2---any word on Atlanta? Are they looking QB?

When Rivers was at State, TA McLendon told me that he had to tell him where to line up and what hole to run through after calling the play. TA did not realize that he was confessing to being stupid--he was telling me how smart Rivers was. Said, "He knew where everyone on the field was supposed to be and what everyone on D was going to do."