MHS831

I kept saying as we discussed the draft that it is important to us (Bryce Situation) that we walk away with a second rounder. When I mocked, I traded for a second rounder in 2025. Now if Bryce screws the pooch again, we should be picking in the top 10. The second rounder gives us some leverage to move up. The QB draft next year is not looking bright.

It was like the Saints, Bucs, and Falcons got together and said, "Whatever Tepper is paying you, we will double it."

But you know that there are wins and losses every time a team makes a move, thanks to hindsight. One incident should not discourage us from celebrating the moment. I am not even sure that I would have traded up, fwiw. I think Jerry figured Brooks would fall to him--but neither of us know the actual background info. It is like that girl at the bar-she becomes prettier when you know a rival has his eye on her. It is when you get her home when you realize that she has a severe speech impediment and prosthetic leg.

Morgan was too, I would assume. I think Spoon was a third rounder as well. I know that he and Morgan were best buds.

I think it was the Wisconsin C, but I think the Penn St Center pops into my head as well. He was rising.

He has flashed. I pull for him. However, we could use 2 threats at TE. I just don't see us going for a TE in this draft and with Canales--he just does not seem to use them (maybe because he has not had them).

I do not know how to argue against your point. Someone said Franklin who would replace Johnson if he wanted to leave for a big pay day--I see that too. Van Pran would be the patient, smart pick. And to keep Corbett here is going to take a big payday. Next season Moton will be making $30m again and the two guards will be getting paid. We really need to let Corbett walk and go with a rookie. A fourth round contract for a starting Center? Whaaaaat? Ickey's deal is fairly cheap right now, but it is about to get expensive in 2026. Of course, by then, we will have a rookie RT....Gotta think about the maff.

If you notice how the Cowboys war room is positioned in relation to the camera, it seems dysfunctional. The Cowboys usually take the full 10 or 7 minutes, and when the camera shows them, they are just sitting there. The seating arrangement is very narcissistic. I think Jerry runs his mouth to get attention and air time and he always thinks he is the smartest person in the room. I am approaching this as if the Cowboys and their team Dr, have given Brooks a clean bill of health and there was a time in the NFL when Brooks would have been a first rounder. If you consider what we could have done here--draft a backup C or LB or CB, maybe we will get more support for Bryce by taking a player who is certain to be on the field. I get this pick. Legette will be on the field, now Brooks--both weapons. We are a TE away from having a full arsenal.

I think CB is our biggest need right now, but passing on C in round 2 does make a statement--We are happy with what we have there. If we needed a starter, we would have never passed of Frazier or Powers-Johnson. However, Van Pran-Granger is sitting there now....

Nothing illustrates the concept that there is a lot of misinformation on the internet more than using it to prepare for the draft. Some clown like Kiper who is never held accountable for his suckage makes a statement that is not accurate or misleading. That concept is repeated and rephrased and spread by other clowns seeking clicks. Then the children of Crystal Meth go online to earn honorary, self-awarded doctorate degrees in NFL Draftology and use that credential to rise above all others and denounce or praise draft-related information by proclaiming all who disagree with you are inferior, blasphemous, gridiron offspring from inner city crack whores.....Where was I? Oh yeah....Nah, not worth it.

We are the dog--the NFL is the lady. Perhaps I need to tone down my metaphors. Naah.

I was just going to put this on the thread created for our second round draft pick, but I thought this would make you feel better about the pick, especially if you despise everything Cowboy-related, including Jerry Jones. First, some background that I heard on TV but have not researched. Jonathan Brooks' surgery was completed by Dallas Cowboys' doctor Dan Cooper. Jones would have had a ton of inside information about the knee and he wanted Brooks BADLY. Now, Jones mentions the interview--think about the character and class it takes to get an owner to say these things publicly: "Having already addressed their offensive line by taking Oklahoma tackle Tyler Guyton in the first round of the 2024 NFL draft, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones might have spoiled their next selection. Speaking to reporters, Jones said Texas running back Jonathon Brooks is "high, high, high" on the Cowboys' draft board going into day two. 'In my 30 years I thought it was the best interview that I ever interviewed with a player," Jones added. "He's outstanding. And he's a great football player.' Brooks to the Cowboys has been one of the most popular player-team pairings since before the draft even started." If Dallas was the only competition, I do not know why we moved back up to 46 from 52 when Dallas picked at 56. However, maybe Dallas was trading up as well. They seemed to get a good deal (compared to what we got from the Rams)--and there are not many RBs in this draft who are elite, can protect the QB, and can catch the ball like Brooks. So I am OK with the trade, I guess. Here is what the NFL Network analysis of Day 2 said about Brooks: "Had Brooks not suffered a torn ACL in November, he might have been a first-round pick. He's a shifty, speedy back who can hit the hole and go, and he should be Carolina's starter before long. I thought they might go center here, but Brooks makes sense for a team that lacked offensive juice." For the record, I did not want the Panthers to draft a RB back in 2017 (or so) when they took McCaffrey. So there's that.

You are right--we should want him in camp, but for a RB, I imagine film and learning the playbook will keep him busy during that time. We are rolling the dice here a bit.

I heard July 1--going from a memory with a poor track record.

I am going way out on a limb here--I bet Morgan knows more about LB than Huddlers with a bad attitude.

I know you did not just disrespect Van Pran ( C and : does that--I hate it.) I have also wanted to move Wilson to TE--and that could be an option in round 5. I think we need to take Frankin (WR--to make that room scary and to prepare for a Johnson and Thielen exodus next year), Van Pran Granger (The center who would take over at the latest next year), or a CB like Tampa. I like the Kamara pick. He is a second round talent.

I see the reason we would do that--then we'd be scary next year even if Thielen and Johnson leave. I see why we'd draft Van Pran, the C from Georgia when it is possible that Corbett can't cut it and his contract expires in 2025. I see why we'd draft Sanders (TE Texas). I see why we would draft a CB--our biggest need right now-- As for your Franklin argument, he has the potential to become a WR 1. A FOURTH ROUND selection.

He is a bit slow (remember Josh Norman ran a 4.68 or so) so he is only a fit for a zone scheme. Tampa ran a 4.59 at his pro day--did not run at combine.

To me, the best picks for the future? Van Pran Granger (C, Ga) or Tampa (CB, Iowa St). The best pick to surround Bryce (which seems to be the focus (Sanders TE). TJ Tampa could start for us soon, but I doubt he can play nickel until then--so we might need another CB later. I still think TAMPA should be the pick, considering our depth at Outside CB. I like Abrams Draine and Brownlee at Nickel. One could be there Rd 5.

This might blow a mind or two, but since we are USC at Columbia North Campus, Spencer Rattler QB (Seriously, the Raiders should try to move up to our spot and grab him)

THIS PERTAINS TO PICK 101 ONLY If we don't draft CB we are in trouble in that area, however, there is a top TE and C sitting there. Here is my breakdown of the CBs along with a brief mention of the other possible choices. If I were GM, I would take Tampa, fwiw. Nickel Corners My preference: Jarvis Brownlee (One of my favorite day 3 options, Brownlee is tough and aggressive with strong tackling skills. 5’ 10”, a nickel who can play outside because. Aggressive in the first five yards area. NFL Network calls him “good backup with potential to develop into a starter.” 4th round grade. Highest rated: Kris Abrams-Draine (a good tackling CB3–converted WR. Had 6 Interceptions. Good value–had a third round grade. Versatile. Needs to work on tackling. NFL Combine site calls him “average starter” and gives him 3rd-4th rd. grade ) Sleeper: Myles Harden (SDSU-good tackling CB with short arms–projects to big nickel or even safety. Has 4th round grade. NFL Combine site calls him “good backup with potential to develop into starter.”) Outside CBs Highest rated and my preference: TJ Tampa (for some reason, this large outside CB has been overlooked. Maybe because the nickel CBs are in demand) had a 2nd to 3rd round grade according to many NFL sites. NFL Combine site rates him as an “average starter” in the NFL) D.J. James (Rarely out of position in zone or man. Outside CB. Struggles with larger receivers and not great in run support–teams will run at him, in fact. Lance Zerlien gives him 3rd rd. grade. NFL Combine site calls him “will eventually be a plus starter”) Nehemiah Pritchett (6’ outside CB who ran 4.36, he is probably a CB with day 2 value in some schemes. Not a strong tackler and slow hip rotation could necessitate S help over the top. Rated “good backup with potential to develop into a starter.” 4th round grade. Caelen Carson (Kind of a mixed bag. Best in press man coverage. Outside CB. Good tackler but takes bad angles. Injury history 2021 and 2022. Limited experience. NFL Network site gives him a 3rd round grade with the “ability to be average starter” rating.) Cam Hart (6’3” outside CB who held Marvin Harrison in check. Can play TEs and tall WRs well. Not great in run support at this point. 4th round grade according to NFL Network Combine site. Rated “good backup with potential to develop into a starter.” Khyree Jackson (6’ 4” outside CB who is a good tackler and wins contested catches. Only started 14 games in college. 4th round grade. Rated “good backup with potential to develop into a starter.” Might make a better S.) Decamerion Richardson (Probably a Safety. Ran 4.34 but has below average coverage skills. NFL Network calls him a “backup with special teams ability”) MHS Recommendation: Draft Tampa at #101. If we are looking for a Nickel, draft Brownlee Tight End Ja’Tavion Sanders Texas He can get up the field from in-line or from the slot, beating man coverage at his route stems or separating quickly from turns. He is able to dig in and win combat catches underneath and has proven to be highly effective running the seam or catching intermediate throws into zone pockets. Teams looking for a tight end with a more complete game might pass on him, but his potential to open up the passing game and become a highly productive pass-catcher should be hard to pass on. Rated “eventually a plus starter” by NFL Network and predicted to go rounds 2-3. Center Sedrick Van Pran-Granger would be an ideal pick to groom for 1 year to prepare for a starting role in 2025. 3-4 rd grade, Lance Zerlien calls him a solid day-2 pick. Rated to “become an average starter”. This would be a smart pick for the Panthers in round 4. Second Wide Receiver Here, I think we need a slot WR, and I would take a look at Rice or Washington.

He will watch a ton of film, learn from the two vets in front of him, play special teams--remember, the focus is on developing him. I wanted Wilson, but this tells me Wilson is not what he appears to be. Hate it for him, because he can ball.

I saw it coming--Morgan had to as well.

65--gotta be corner, but if Wilson is there, we will take him, imo.

OK, if you were going to build a system around a young, small QB who got hammered last year, what do you do? You follow the Saints' model and bring in two stud guards. You add a first round WR. You trade for an X WR. You add the best RB in the draft, one that blocks, catches, and runs. We may add a TE tomorrow. You see, when the Defense is not afraid of your guards, your WRs, your RB, and your TE--they tend to pin their ears back. That makes playing QB very difficult, something some of the more astute Huddlers have noticed. Now they have to fear our OL, WR Johnson, WR Thielen, WR Legette, RB Brooks--all pretty elite. The Defense is less likely to pin their ears back. This is how Payton designs his offenses, and why they call him the QB whisperer. Yes, we will run the ball and I think we will feature motion, short passes, slants, etc. with a focus on YACs. The RB was an important piece, and I doubt the RB we needed was going to be there in the fifth. I hate drafting a RB, but I understand it.