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That is what I thought--the second round will feature a few teams that probably need a qb or will soon, but if he survives that mine field and falls to us in round 3, OK. A team like Tampa Bay, for example, would be a good landing spot for him. Learn behind Brady for a season or two and develop fundamentals.

I know Snow is against it, but if he is healthy and on a vet min deal, I would take a look. But man did he seem to roll over after getting paid. However... I am at my job and they sign me to a $50m deal, and give me $30m up front. Am I working harder for that $20 million that is not guaranteed? Ummmmm. When I get back from the yacht dealership and sign the papers on the island I just purchased.

That is what I said after watching Titanic. I said, "I bet they make Titanic II and in that movie, the ship unsinks." My friends laughed, but then I said, "You'll see." They quit laughing then. I just smiled, dropped the mic, and walked out of the room. I am sure they felt stupid then.

Or you could add, Drafting Beason when we still had Morgan

That was the first thought that popped into my head. HATED it then, still mad.

I see a guy who does not have a lot of elusiveness and does not always seem to get as much separation as he should be getting, but it is really hard to say based on this small sample of highlights. Note how often the first man in the open field brings him down. Maybe there is something here, but his upside is visible.

To travel across the country, you need a dependable vehicle. Imagine everyone wanted to travel across country, but there were only enough dependable vehicles for half of them. You go after that dependable vehicle and you get one--however, you have not paved the road (offensive line), or bought insurance (defense). Others have paved roads and insurance. Who gets across the country first? This allegorical tale was to demonstrate that signing a QB means very little if we are not ready for a QB. It is also to say if we are ready and don't have a QB, we are going nowhere. So the moral of this lesson is "A QB in the hand may be worth 2 in the bush, but a QB on a stretcher is worth less than the bush." Let that sink in.

I think this way: "Trevor could be great, but everyone is treating him like the next great thing. He has some flaws that could be problematic at the next level. He could bust. I hope we are having tacos tonight. Where are my meds?"

I posted the same thing a few days ago. I agree.

Just got off the phone with my brother-in-law, a chiropractor in Columbus, OSU Alumnus, who knows a lot of folks inside the Ohio State program. He said that the OSU QB has evolved--never really been known for QBs until recently, and he gave a reason for every recent QB bust--he says that Fields is different--was used less like an athlete who can throw and more like a thrower who is an athlete. He reads, but tends to lose patience the more he is in the pocket. He said that Fields is the best QB Ohio State has had in his recent memory--if you are thinking NFL potential. He still has his doubts and sees what might scare off some NFL fans, but he thinks the right system will produce a star.

Due Diligence--no decisions are final until the end of April.

They should, but they are sending out QB vibes. I really do not get it--the #4 QB in this draft is not worth the #4 pick, and they have many other needs and a serviceable QB. I am going to make a longshot prediction and say the take Chase WR or Sewell T

Welcome. It is a great place to interact and learn alternative perspectives. I break them down into 4 basic groups, and those who are these things probably have to look them up because they are only called these things behind their backs. The rest of us know what these things are, so we laugh at those who don't know. The four types of Huddler are as follows: 1. The pillock 2. The mumpsimus 3. The smellfungus 4. The Lickspittle Of course, the complex Huddler is usually a combination of 2 or more of these, hard to detect at first glance.

was that photo from his days as Belk model? The "Hurney collection"?

Plan C--put an ad for a highly-skilled QB online--I recommend Indeed.

I see both sides of the argument about drafting a QB now. I want one badly. I still think we are holding out for Watson, to some degree, but there is nothing wrong with building the roster THEN bring in your guy.

I think you are trading for Darnold to give him a 1-year therapy camp and you put him through mechanics hell. He has the arm strength. You tie his feet together and tell him to dance around...You make him catch a free-range chicken with his hands...you make him do one-handed push ups--all during a season-long montage made famous in the 80s movies. At the end of the song, he starts the super bowl and wins it.

You want to plan for a QB in year 2022? Here is one way: Trade a conditional 4th rounder for Darnold and pay him his salary for 2021. Work with him--put him as the #3 QB on the depth chart--and have the QB coach work with him all day on his mechanics. If he progresses, offer him a backup QB contract with incentives for 2022-25 or so. If he does not, let him go.

Which may be the reason they hold onto him for Trevor's rookie season. This would have to be a good offer--like a third and a conditional 2022 pick. (speculating, but when I do that, I am never wrong)

This is correct, but with Marty, whose job was on the line most of the time, there was no long-range plan. If we decide to build the roster and draft a QB next year, here is what I would do: Trade back. Some team will trade up for a WR, T, etc. add a first rounder in 2022. Add a second rounder this year. Then next year, you have 2 firsts, cap room, etc. You have added your CB and OT.

You are making sense today! Keep it going...

This is not directly related to the in-depth analysis weaving a tapestry of knowledge in this thread, but I do have an interrogative point to make. Which is better?: A. An average QB with a strong defense and an stud OL and weapons like CMC, Anderson, and Moorex2? B. A potentially-good to great QB (and potentially a bust) with a defense that features weak corners, an OL that features drifters and retreads, yet he still has weapons like CMC, Anderson, and Moorex2? I do not know the answer, but I wonder how many early first round busts would have been good on established rosters? The world may never know.

It is not news until it happens--and if there are other possibilities. Come on man--sharing updated information is not something that should be treated with dickism.

Person may have his reasons, but rarely does he have inside info. He is the same Person (see what I did there?) who proclaimed that Moton was gone (knowing that we could franchise him) and actually gave his vision a 60% likelihood of being true. Many of us (without insider info) called BS--we felt that Samuel could be gone, but no way in hell we lose Moton. So this could be Person trying to finance a new batch of hair gel by getting clicks--but I do see this being a possibility. I think Brady and the offense: Who did they want? Bridgewater. Who were they ready to see leave? Cam. This is about style of play within the system, not the people or past accolades. Bridgewater sucked, and that fell through. So who best fits the Brady system? I think that there are question marks and a season of development for Lance and Fields, and I think Jones lacks the athleticism to run the options etc. and he is probably at his ceiling. So yeah, I see it. Now, what veteran might fit this system--a casualty of the draft? Minshew does come to mind, to some degree, and so does Darnold. Darnold is the most intriguing because his problems are mechanics that are fixable. He rarely has his feet in position. When the game slows down and with good QB coaching--and maybe some time on the bench, he could be good. Do we have that kind of time? I am not talking first option here, but a season behind Bridgewater might do wonders for him.

Minshew. Last season, on a team in full tank mode, in 9 games Minshew completed 66% of his passes and had 15 TDs vs 6 Ints. He won a game. The year before, he was 6-6 on that terrible team and threw 21 TDs vs. 6 ints. Give him some time and some weapons. Jake Delhomme II?