MHS831

I just thought you were trying to turn me into an introvert. (Jung humor)

No you didn't! Not in memes.

This logic suggests that we should avoid Fields, Lance, and Jones too.

I know of one trojan condom I wish did not burst.

I think they would hear, "Kaaaachingggg!" Move back (staying in the 9-20 range--which includes 9. Denver 12. Philly 14. Minnesota (my dark horse move up for QB ) 15. New England (the ideal trade partner) 17. Vegas 19. Washington 20. Chicago

We will upgrade QB if and when we get a chance. We are more likely to wait until after the draft and sign an aging veteran to hold a clipboard and mentor Darnold, until he shows us what he can do here. But I think they weighed it this way: Sam Darnold: A young QB with some redeeming qualities who can be developed. He has cost us the equivalent of a third, a fifth, and a sixth rounder. That comes to about 300 trade value points. Trey Lance: A young QB with some redeeming qualities who can be developed, but he might not be there at 8, so trading down to #5 or #6 (and that would likely cost us a second round pick, in addition to our first round pick). Lance would cost us between 1700 and 1900 trade value points. Mac Jones: A young QB with some redeeming qualities who can be developed, but is probably close to his ceiling athletically. He is likely to be there at 8, but not guaranteed. (He would cost us our first round pick, obviously). Jones would cost us 1400 trade value points. Drafting Darnold allows the Panthers the opportunity to trade back or take a strong player at #8--like a LT such as Sewell. OK, you just made Darnold better because by trading for him you saved your first and second and third round picks. Now you can get the LT to play opposite Moton. Miller is no slouch, and Paradis was improving. LG is the only hole, and with Daley, Erving, Elfein all able to play LG, are we suddenly solid on offense? What if we add a TE to go with Arnold?

So, you dream about bananas, do you?

Here is what people do not get- QBs have an internal clock. They get hit (or hurried) at 3.4 seconds after the snap (making this up) 76% of the time. Darnold is hit or hurried 88% of the time at 3.1 seconds. Mentally, do you think he is in the same place as a Drew Brees or a Dak Prescott--teams known for their OL play? The threat of pressure can be as real as the pressure itself-human nature. It is called "defense mode" and the amygdala in the brain sends a signal to the hippocampus, shutting normal functioning down and sending the brain into "fight, flight, or freeze" (defense) mode. Ever get really rattled when you were ALMOST in a car accident? Same thing.

Is that the kid from the commercial? The kid loosening up his arm, taunting Cam? All I got.

Bengal fans are thinking its down to Chase and Sewell. Pitts makes sense though

This thing is going to play out as if we paid Teddy Checkdown $40m for one season. Move over Mahomes. Nice.

Why did we give Darnold a chance to start? The culture, the coaches, the OL, the system, the play calling, etc. have everything to do with a player's chance to succeed. It takes a village.

Wasnt it Cosell who said something like, the system is critically important for any young QB? Darnold did not start playing QB until he was a Jr in High School. Four years later, he is in the NFL with a bad coach, bad OC, bad team, etc. expected to work miracles. This was not a gamble--it is a low-cost, calculated risk--the kind of move that either propels you to greatness as a team, or you lose a second rounder in 2022. No brainer.

And when you are playing from behind all the time you force it because that is your competitive nature. Still, there is some criticism of his field vision. Film OL, and Brady can fix that.

People wanted an established QB with a winning smile and record. That player is not available. And every time we have a great QB draft (1983 comes to mind) half of them do not make it. So you all are bitching about the equivalent of a third, a fifth, and a sixth rounder for a QB that might become good in our system--and that has nothing to do with what happened in NY- Or would you have preferred that we sent our 2021 first and second rounders and our 2023 first rounder to trade up for a QB with about a 50% chance of becoming special? This is a very shrewd move, and it does not suggest that we are done. For example, Mills needed another year of college--would have been a first rounder next season, some say. Why not add him? If Darnold develops, we could trade him for a first rounder or more. If Darnold flops, you have a guy you have been grooming for a year. Some wanted to keep Teddy for a season if we drafted a rookie--then cut him. This is a better option because Darnold is 23 and might just have a future.

I have been trying to analyze his comments all day---there is a dropoff around 16 (and I see it) and then between 20-40 there is no difference. So do we trade back with a team like New England (15) and then take a player, adding a pick in the 20-40 range? I am so confused.

This is getting eerily close to conversation my wife and I had recently...

I think we do something like this---we need 3 players in round 2 in my "imagination" and it takes me anywhere I want to go. I want a #1 CB, a starting LT, and Mond or Mills (QB). In round 3, I would like a 3 Tech and maybe a developmental G in round 4.

Ryan Kalil was not that good at G--too small, but he was a nice center. I like what I am hearing and want to believe it all...

I thought he was as good as cut this year--he did step up a bit, probably getting strength back after the injury, but he is no star.

I know-but it is not going to be as simple as we are making it--if there is a QB there, and there might be--or if not, a damn good WR/CB/T will be there--do we move back? I think we have to. My favorite OT in this draft--Sewell is awesome--is Teven Jenkins--but he played RT.

There will probably be a QB at #8 and a team that wants to deal. We could get a 2021 second and a 2022 second to move back to 15 (NE) or 19 (Washington) and still get a CB / T in round 1.

I do not think we go OT in round 1--there are about 8-10 good Tackles. We can have BOTH a CB and a T, but the CB market gets thin at the back end of the first round--there should be tackles through the second--at least in the mocks I mess with. I just do not get the Erving and Elfein signings.

Yes, but Jackson is probably gone in 2022 (if we do not re-sign him) and we have Pride. The CBs in round 1 are good--and the OL is deep in this draft. We can have both. Nobody is talking about a 3tech DT, but we are going to get one. MARK MY WORDS!!

I hear you, brother, but a #1 CB on Jones and Thomas makes us better at 2 positions. #1 CBs are rather hard to get, and the draft is deep at OL---just a hunch, but we could trade back a bit, grab a CB and a T, and then we frolic.