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We need to seriously consider changing the name of this group from Carolina Huddle to Karen Huddle. A very smart acquisition. A former first rounder who played in a 3-4 was not in position to perform well in Jax, a team in disarray in 2020. Let's see what happens. This is what we are going to have to do, and I would rather sign proven athletes on bargain contracts when they are 24 that overpaying 30+ year old half assing journeymen.

I did not realize that Wonnum was 260lbs. He looks about 240--so you are probably right. He is an upgrade over YGM. DJ Johnson has great speed (4.49) but he is 260 as well. Barno is in the 240 range, and he also has elite quickness (4.36). So I am guessing,based on these physical characteristics, than DJ will be behind Wonnum as the SLB, and Barno will be behind the edge pass rusher on the other side--how do you see it?

They were afraid they would look Clowny if the Chased him. Thought I would take some of the heat off your back.

He is Haynes replacement, assuming Haynes is not back--not Burns' replacement. That is why we are still pursuing Chase and Clowny. I am guessing it is going to be Clowny, and I am guessing it will be a one-year contract. Of course, we could whiff on both, and that would necessitate drafting one. I think we could draft a Sam 0LB and a rush/Jack OLB.

Brown has been durable and he plays the entire game--does not come out on passing downs and he can play all 3 positions up front. If situational pass rushers can get $25m, he deserves more.

He needs an incentive based contract.

great point.

Mystery solved. Case closed.

That is right--the difference is about $18m. So we get this guy and an elite Right guard for about what we would have paid disgruntled Peter Parker

If his material was posted here on the huddle as a huddler, we'd throw him out.

He is a 26 year old Haynes-best comparison I can think of on short notice.

40 is about as low as I would go as well, but it sorta depends on what player I am targeting at #33. I really think we are going to be in great position to add a third rounder by trading down-still have #39. So if you have #39 and 40, and then #65 and say, #80, that is ideal, imo

I kno better than to mess with computer nerds. As soon as I do, my laptop crashes and my internet freezes. They have mystical powers that are directly affiliated with the dark side.

I think some posts on this Huddle thread are just parroting the post from some Rando. They aren't reliable. Who's with me?

' That would give us the 31st pick!!

In fairness to Kirk, he would not have retired a Redskin if he spent his entire career in Washington. Feel free to discuss.

yes, Depth is going to be our problem. We can get competitive with 22, but 53?

I really like Payton Wilson and Luke Kuechly loves him as well. He has been battling injuries for a while--if not, he'd be a top 10 player. He is that good when healthy

I like Frazier, but I read somewhere that he is a bruiser who does not fit all offenses. Strong man, a stud. I sorta wrote him off for that reason.

I like to see people who know what they have after days 1 and 2. Zinter is recovering from that injury, but we would not need him right away. A steal there. Wiley is a player they have met with, and he will be there later. But what I liked is Tommy Eichenberg. I noticed him last year in a game I was watching with my brother-in-law, an OSU alumni and a chiropractor in Columbus. He knows the Buckeyes. I told him, "I like that Eichenberg LB. He said that they are high on him, but he has done little so far. in 2023 he had like 120 tackles. He would be a great backup who can possibly replace Thompson in 2025.

I do not get why it is tanking if you refuse to pay a player $30m after an 8-9 sack season. Do you keep him for $24m when he has already said he plays for the payday? Now, if you get your heads out of the tunnel for a minute, and think, "How much is this going to cost you moving forward? Do you think other agents and players would not see that as weakness?" Morgan had to make a statement, and Morgan is a dawg. Keep a player who announced, "I was half assing it for a good contract" and let that guy wear a "C" on his chest and set the example for others? I think we were inept and caused Burns' public statement, but when you say words in microphones or vent in social media, there is a record and it cannot be taken back. The more I think about it, the more I see why Morgan did what he did. Sure, the deal sucked, but ever since then, Morgan has been solid. I do not want Clowney on the roster for the same reason. I do not want Chase--if a player with their skills and gifts become journeymen, understand that people who had them under contract got rid of them. Give me the other Gamecock and Chase can go chase his tail elsewhere.

There is some disagreement about Center on the Huddle, and as you know, I am known to be the peace keeper, the mild-mannered conflict resolver, beloved by all. So I thought, in the spirit of love and compassion so often demonstrated on this board, to provide a list of prioritized needs. I would provide a mailing address for thank you cards and gifts, but Special Juan would arrive at my house before I hit "Submit Topic" below. (Juan, as you know, I support you and appreciate what you have to offer). 1. Edge (could be addressed today. Do we sign 2, as David "Isaac" Newton suggests? I strongly suggest grabbing one and drafting one in the second round) 2. Wide Receiver (Johnson is basically a one-year contract. Thielen is likely gone after this season if not sooner. We need a draft pick that can become a #1 WR or a damn good #2; I still would not be surprised to see us grab a WR in round 2 and a WR in round 5) 3. Tight End (that's right! The more we ignore a threat at TE, the higher TE rises. If we are going to give Bryce weapons, neglecting TE is not an option. I see a pass catching TE in my crystal ball.) 4. Strong Safety (Unless you are a fan of Jammie Robinson, which I am not, we need one. I see us bringing in a veteran free agent here. There are some pretty good SS candidates in the draft in round 3, actually.) 5. Center (this could become more of a priority if Morgan and Canales are not serious about Corbett. I think they think they have a quality OL at C who is backed by Mays now as a full-time center reserve. I think they think the position is covered. However, I think this will be Corbett's last season in Carolina, and he is often injured. Are you prepared to go with Mays? He played 400+ snaps last season at G and had a 58.3 PFF rating. To me, and I watch the OL, that is about right--maybe a bit high. The PFF score of 60 is average, so Mays was slightly below that. With better coaching and one position to focus on, I think he will be better in 2024 to such a degree, they could even be grooming him to be the C of the future. Breathe. Deep Breaths. Exhale slowly. There, better? I think it makes sense to draft a C late, but grabbing a top C with 2 pros at the position means that they were not serious about Corbett and Mays) 6. Corner (Expect a late round CB for depth Bootle is OK, but nothing behind him) 7 Free Safety (We have nothing much behind Woods. Late round pick or undrafted free agent) So if we sign a free agent edge or not, here is how I would draft, assuming the cards fall in the proper direction. I am assuming that Corbett and Mays will be the centers and I am going to assume that better coaching makes them better. However, I will take a C if one falls and he is a good fit. Pick 33: WR or Edge Pick 39: Edge or WR Pick 65: TE or SS Pick 101: SS or TE 5th rounders: WR, CB, or C So now I will mock draft using this template. I may trade once. We shall see. (https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft) Pick 33: Trade Pick 39: Graham Barton, C While I am sure that the Panthers think they have this spot covered, Barton was the BPA and he would make the OL ELITE. getting an extremely athletic, intelligent center for the next decade to work with Bryce, a very smart QB, is perhaps the best move for the long-term interests of the franchise. Barton dropped, BPA, and there were no good WR or Edge options. A post June 1 cut saves the team $6m, or you have Corbett to backup both G spots and C. Win Win. Pick 45 (after trade): Adisa Isaac, Edge. Penn State. A very versatile player who would be perfect for multiple fronts. Pick 65: Ja'Tavion Sanders TE. Texas. A pass catching TE who is fearless over the middle and has good hands, good speed-a weapon. The absence of a pass-catching TE and red zone threat has been devastating to this team, so when I saw Sanders had fallen about 14 spots below where I had him going, I scooped him up. TRADE UP: Pick 80: Ricky Pearsall, WR Florida: 6"1" eventual slot WR who ran 4.4 at combine and led others in most categories. Crafty and intelligent. Gives the Panthers the slot of the future, and another intelligent player on offense to pair with an intelligent QB. Before the combine, an AFC Scout said, "I don't know how fast he is, but he gets open and he's got great hands -- just needs a more accurate quarterback." (A: 4.4 40, 42" Vertical, Broad Jump 10' 9") Pick 142: Kitan Oladepo SS, Oregon State: Plays all over the field. A large safety (6'2" 215) who covers well. Looks like the NFL Strong Safety. Ran a 4.58 40. Still a bit raw, can develop into a starter in right defense. Pick 150: Jalyx Hunt: Edge, Houston Christian: Great name for an Edge, but this kid is raw and could develop into a situational pass rusher of a Sam OLB with some added muscle. At 6'4" 252 lbs, Hunt ran a 4.64 40 at the combine. His arms are over 34 inches and he has 10" hands. Size, speed, flexibility--all the ingredients are there. I wanted to go with a CB or WR here, but this project is too good to pass up this late. Pick 240: Quintin Newsome, CB, Nebraska: Upside is the best way to describe him--big CB. Newsome is an incredibly long and physical coverage defender at 6’1″, 185 pounds. He dominates at the catch point with his reach, tenacity, and ball skills. In 2022, Newsome logged 44 tackles, four TFLs, two sacks, and a team-high 10 pass deflections. In addition to adding a 2025 day 2 draft pick, here is how it looks:

He has his draft day suit already picked out, so there's that.

Pretty much