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Who impressed & who needs to get his ass cut (Preseason week 1)
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Pure speculation based on a SI article that was published in May--I see two or three interesting possible additions here. I included the positions that might be of interest. I also used blue to highlight my "yes please" waiver wire additions. Please feel free to post suggestions that seem destined for the waiver wire. New England Patriots: Bailey Zappe, QB "yes please" Bailey Zappe started two games for New England as a rookie in 2022 and six more in 2023. Now that the Patriots have pivoted to third overall pick Drake Maye with capable veteran Jacoby Brissett as his backup, Zappe is unlikely to stick on the roster. (MHS: Not to mention Milton--Zappe is a goner, and I think he will be a Panther). Baltimore Ravens: Tylan Wallace, WR Following a standout career as a wideout at Oklahoma State, Tylan Wallace has never been an important offensive piece with Baltimore. He's occupied a valuable role on special teams in all three seasons, so the Ravens still can utilize him. But if they're comfortable with Deonte Harty and rookie Tez Walker, Wallace's time in Baltimore may end. (MHS: A decent returner--I might take Wallace if Smith-Marsette is not effective. Wallace was a 4th rounder, so he could just need a chance) Cleveland Browns: David Bell, WR David Bell has totaled 900 snaps on offense and special teams during his two professional seasons. However, he may be squeezed out of the position after Cleveland traded for Jerry Jeudy and drafted Jamari Thrash. It seems unlikely Bell and Cedric Tillman will remain on the roster. (MHS: He is 23 and has skills--probably will be cut-he is the same size as Mingo, XL, Adam T-not better than what we have, imo) Pittsburgh Steelers: Cole Holcomb, LB "yes please" The most unfortunate part of Cole Holcomb's season-ending knee injury is that it might lead to his release. This offseason, the Steelers signed high-priced Patrick Queen and added Payton Wilson in the draft. Pittsburgh may simply move in a new direction away from Holcomb, who posted 54 tackles in eight appearances last season. (MHS: This tarheel has been solid in Pittsburgh, and he is recovering from knee surgery. We are thin at LB--yes please. check him out on PFF: https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/cole-holcomb/49753?season=2022 ) Tennessee Titans: Tre Avery, CB "yes please" Over the last two seasons, Tre Avery has collected 62 tackles with five starts in 29 games. Tennessee needed to upgrade the unit, however, and added both L'Jarius Sneed and Chidobe Awuzie. Roger McCreary is the third starter, while releasing Caleb Farley saves no money and keeping Eric Garror and rookie Jarvis Brownlee Jr. is sensible. Avery should catch on somewhere if the Titans move on. (MHS: There could be something here. We need tackling CBs and he had a good PFF score in 2022. considering our lack of depth, this could be an upgrade to our depth, so I am giving this a marginal "yes please." https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/tre-avery/56146?season=2022) Los Angeles Chargers: Chris Rumph, Edge At this point, Jim Harbaugh has probably turned over the roster to his liking. Chris Rumph may snatch a final spot, but the recent signing of Bud Dupree is not good news for him. Rumph is behind Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, Tuli Tuipulotu and Dupree at the position. (MHS: Rump is young and could offer some depth. They would have to like him better than Chaisson, imo. https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/chris-rumph/56345) Chicago Bears: Dominique Robinson, Edge After playing 50 percent of snaps as a rookie, Dominique Robinson's share dipped to 35 percent last year. Meanwhile, the Bears traded for Montez Sweat and jumped up to land Austin Booker in the draft. Robinson will be fighting for a final spot in the edge-rushing rotation. (MHS: Meh. Has not been that great in Chicago and his PFF scores are bad. He is young. This probably won't happen) Minnesota Vikings: Nick Mullens or Jaren Hall QB If possible, the Vikings would probably like to keep Nick Mullens around for his knowledge. The problem is Minnesota signed Sam Darnold in free agency, drafted J.J. McCarthy and still has Jaren Hall—who realistically might not be safe as a hopeful stash on the practice squad. This is very much a Mullens vs. Hall discussion. (MHS: Mullens is no spring chicken (29), but he has a lot of NFL experience. We know that Mullens or Hall is gone, and I am guessing that they keep Hall for salary cap reasons. Since it is one of two, I will share the PFF links for both. Mullens--https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/nick-mullens/12282?season=2022 Hall: https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/jaren-hall/82094?season=2023) Atlanta Falcons: Taylor Heinicke, QB Since he already agreed to a restructured contract, Taylor Heinicke has a logical path to another year in Atlanta. He may legitimately be content as a handsomely paid reserve, too. Still, the Falcons signed Kirk Cousins and semi-controversially drafted Michael Penix Jr. in the first round. Heinicke is neither a stopgap starter nor the perceived backup. (MHS: When Atlanta signed Cousins and drafted Penix Jr, it made Heinicke too expensive to keep as a #3. I think they will shop him first, but he is 31 and his PFF ratings are low--hard pass)
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The thing that bothered me about Plummer--I saw no leadership, no fire, no sense of urgency. It was like watching a Greatful Deadhead walk home from a party. And he made stupid decisions under pressure--any qb knows "get rid of the ball" when under pressure. Flipping the ball to Smith Marsette on the sweep from 2 feet away was dumb. He was slow getting to the handoff spot--you keep the ball and follow the runner and get what you can. He is going to be cut very soon.
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With the injury to QB2 and the limited playbook of QB4 and the fact QB1 was not dressed, that may not have been a strategy.
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There is not much you can say. However, to those who are critical about not playing the starters, not saying that I disagree with you, but here are some possible reasons. 1. Injury--maybe not this game, but at the end of a 12-game season in college, and I did not play much more than anyone else, you run down. We had something like 10 ice tubs, and they were rarely filled early in the season. By the end of the season, you had to show up early and schedule a time. The 100 man roster was down to about 75 players for the final game--college is not as violent as the pros and they play 20 games excluding the playoffs. I do not know how they do it. 2. Building the roster from the bottom up. Remember, we have first choice on the waiver wire. We need to know what our bottom 40 players look like. Building depth is very important because injuries are going to happen. Coaches need to watch film to identify and prioritize our weaknesses. We also need to pay attention to players on other rosters who are likely to be waived in a few weeks. Zappe, for example, is likely to be waived by New England--we have film on him. If we can find a "gamer" on the roster, it could help. I know guys who were weak or average in practice but in games, they were incredible. One became an all-pro for the Eagles, and my first impression was "how did he get a scholarship?" Got my answer. 3. The weather. In the rain, groins are much more likely to be pulled. People tend to slide and lose their balance/centers of gravity. When that happens you lose your technique, and that leads to injury. 4. Morale. If the starting OL has not played together, it would be demoralizing to see them struggle against a second unit. Canales is a cerebral, emotional coach who feeds on positivity. Maybe he felt putting them in position to fail (based on their lack of time to gel in practice) would not be beneficial.
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I think they wanted to see if Plummer is the answer at Qb3 (PS) and that answer is "no." The Pats are going to cut Zappe and we will have first crack at him. I think we should pick him up at that time.
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No wonder we lost! Feeling better now.
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I missed that. It really requires a lot of discipline to watch this offense. In case we did not see enough "three and outs" last year, we are going to put in an undrafted, rookie, third string (for now) confused QB for over 3 quarters to trigger all kinds of nostalgic flashbacks, including unforced fumbles, pre-snap penalties, and my favorite, multiple dropped passes by high-paid professional athletes whose only job is to catch the football when it is thrown to them. As bad as it made me feel, at least we could see them laughing about it on the sidelines. I admire Canales positivity, but it is time to make some moves. Leota played a good game---held the edge and pressured the passer. Matthews caught about 3 balls and he was pumped and focused while everyone else seemed numb. I'd keep Coker if cuts were tomorrow and I might cut TMJ. Nobody should be paid to suck legally.
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In college, we threw it 30 times a game or more. I don't think we dropped 4 passes in any game--this is pitiful
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Pats QBs in 2024: Jacoby, Maye, Milton To be waived: Zappe. Better that Plummer
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what else I hate about preseason? These 10 minute interviews with a player not playing that produce no new information--just fluff. Forget the game--lets go to a long interview where a sideline reporter lobs softball questions at a guy who is not wearing pads. Then the announcers fill the viewers in when they return to action
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Just joined-Leota and Matthews are looking good. Lamar Jackson looking good at times. That C from Oklahoma whiffed, gave up a sack (Raym?) The OL is good for 20 yards in pre snap penalties per game---I don't know. Watch Zappe--he might be the Panthers next QB3
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It is like your hungry but your crazy drunk pill-popping aunt is fixing dinner. You are going to eat because it is better than not eating--hopefully. I am actually pumped--day 1 of the Canales administration.
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They make rookies earn it. After preseason it will be adjusted, but who knows what they are feeling?
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I spent some time yesterday looking over the roster. We are thin at some spots and not deep at many positions. I looked at the depth and their NFL experience or draft data--yikes. We are thin at LB. We are thin at CB. We are thin at OLB. We are thin at QB. Possibly thin at C. If injuries continue at the current pace, we are in huge trouble.
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I have a story. I was at a preseason game with some knowledgeable Panther fans--4 dudes, each outspoken and eager to share his wisdom to impress the others. The Panthers were playing a team with an established, 4-time Pro Bowl (over his career) QB who played the first quarter and was pulled. A rookie sixth round backup QB came in to play the second quarter. I said, "Guys? That QB, #12, is pretty good. I think he is better than Bledsoe." My friends laughed at me--hard. The kind of laughing that sends projectiles out of your nostrils. For the rest of the night they looked at me and laughed. The ride home (an hour) was a bitch. It became something they joked about so much, I hated when two of them would come together in my presence. I quietly doubted my observations and secretly wished I had not said something so dumb. You know the rest of the story. As Brady took the reins and played well, their memory of my comment faded away. They could not recall giving me a hard time or remember my prophetic words at the stadium that night. To this day, I remind them of it. They remember--and I am determined that they grow old knowing that when they "professed themselves to be wise, they became fools" (Romans 1:20). That's right--it became Biblical. Point: You never know. While I doubt Plummer ever plays a meaningful NFL snap, he or someone like him will become a star one day.
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The problem is if we start losing. He has been inconsistent over his career. In four of his 10 seasons, he has 37 sacks. In six of his ten seasons, he has a combined total of 15.5 sacks. I realize that sacks are but one measure, and since there is often someone who pressures the qb first, allowing for the second person to get the sack, I do not really think sacks is a fair statistic. I have seen people get sacks when two or three teammates force the QB right into the player. Pressures is a better statistic--On our defense, we will need another force to step up on the other side--encouraged about the early news concerning Johnson. Barno has been hurt, and he was showing signs. Wonnum, however, is the starter. Wonnum has been in the league 4 years and is averaging about 6 sacks per season-half his seasons featured 8 sacks, respectively. If we can get that out of him, Clowney should see more 1 on 1 match ups.
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I am a graduate professor in Education Leadership--I have taught undergraduate (secondary education) and masters and doctorate classes for future principals and superintendents. I am guessing that is what you are asking? Before that, I taught High School English and was a school administrator. The MHS stands for Monroe High School. 831 was a typo-I meant to type 8031--I was 80 in football and 31 in baseball and basketball--just did not fix it because it didn't really matter.
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More than I am one of them.