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Let me just say this--the better the OL in the middle and the right side, the better your LT will be. It limits the options. Let's say Erving is the LT just because he is. Scott is behind him. Elflein and Christensen become the LGs. Paradis and Moore are centers (Elflein, Irving depth too), Miller and Brown are at RG, and Moton with Scott and Daley behind him at RT. On paper, we are better at EVERY OL position. With CMC and Chuba running the ball, with much better TEs, and with the best WR corps the team has ever had, I think we can cover LT for a year.

I am starting to agree. Maybe Moton is slated for LT, but there are no signs that point that way. AND if you know Moton is solid at RT and you are strong up the middle, you can chip and use a FB/HBack to help a LT with a speed rusher. For example, Tremble lines up on the wing--the LT knows that he blocks head up to inside gap. If there is nobody there, he could get a call to help the G. If there is help inside, he only takes outside and simply pushes the rush out. Taking on a speed edge rusher who can bull rush or go rip under or go around is a lot to ask the best LT. So we could be looking at support personnel and scheme as much as the player.

This is a bit hypocritical because I would wager that you have more experience in choir and twitter than you do an NFL locker room. 3 hours on the field for 17 Sundays is a small amount of time. As I mentioned earlier--the team has a brand--and the people you support and hire reflect your values. Your friends do, your wife does, even your place of employment. So save the chest pounding. We all know the game and nobody has annointed you as the sage of all that is the NFL. We understand winning, but some do it with character within a system. If you don't understand the importance of character in the process of developing a WINNING culture, you are likely to not understand these points--so bye.

That last spot is for Watson or Rodgers. Probably. Not.

because they signed 2 and cut 3?

Folks--the Panthers are a BRAND. No person, no win is worth tarnishing the BRAND. "It's just business." Investors, PSL sales, your impact in the community (which leads to tax dollars for stadiums, etc in a small market)--what more do you need? If he were to undergo therapy for a year, publicly apologize, etc. maybe then, but I would vote against it. Think Subway and Jared. Something that would never happen: Hardees: "All we have is that stupid star for a mascot. What about Jared? He is young and was great selling subs...."

Keep Pounding! Ice up son. Wrong thread? or is it? You decide.

Damn straight. Tell them about those strawberry-pineapple wine coolers you were slammin at the Christmas craft show last July---buncha lameass beatches.

No need. Your word is gold. Everyone wants immediate results, and I think this line is WAY better than last year. Did you notice the Tremble/Christensen combo blocks? Think we are not going to have answers if he takes a while to develop? We may not start a rookie week 1, but by mid season, we could have 2-3 in the lineup.

Watch his interview---I love this kid--hope he sticks--I think he will.

I watched the interviews linked here earlier (Thanks Mr. Scot). I was impressed with D. Brown--not just the weight loss (which shows dedication) but his intensity and seriousness. He said, "If you don't learn it in the classroom, it is not going to make it to the practice field (paraphrase)" I am sold. He was intelligent and focused. David Moore was also intelligent, and that is important for a center--if that is where he plays. He chose the Panthers because the SR Bowl, and Trent Scott, etc. He is likeable -- I am really pulling for him. I am noticing a type, and we seem to have brought in very intelligent linemen (Elflein, Brown, Moore, IEving, Christensen). Spend some time watching their interviews. The OL communicates--operate from the same page--say what you want about what they have done at other places, but these guys are sharp. Not sure about Paradis or Miller--but Moton is very intelligent. Learning is a theme here. These players represent this sentiment-- This interview sold me on Cam Erving:

Then you showed them your notepad, and said, "What do you think?": This joke never gets old. I imagine we probably were there at the same time--Very few watched the entire practice--most showed up when the players were entering and leaving--

Domes and Drones- the NFL has changed.

I mean, if I was the Saints, Falcons, etc. I would own a condo across the street and a NASA telescope with a boom mic. OTAs? Come on--tarps?

I guess I should not PIE this statement, but you guys giving eggplants are more wrong than I was. Love to see him around 330.

I tell you why that he might make it, in my opinion. So many teams are running defenses that require a Tampa 2 type coverage LB. Fisher is not that guy. He will be a special team player and brought in for the nickel on goal line and short yardage. He could grow from there, but with 2 ILBs, a run stuffer is not a bad thing.

I used to watch them because they practiced close to the fence in the shade--I remember that man verbally undressing Charles Johnson--I remember thinking, "That was a wasted pick..." They would run goal line defense into that side of the field as well. great view from behind the D--I remember watching Beason reading the play as fast as the RB--I was like--"He is the real deal!" But the worst I ever saw was the constant harassment Smitty gave Dwayne Jarrett. Abuse--Smitty did not relate well with new WRs--saw them as competition, I guess? Speaking of Smitty, the OTAs I watched showed me that he had no real friends--except Kasay. They talked during warm ups the entire time. Finally, since Richard Marshall was mentioned, he came out of practice one day and told me while signing my son's autograph, "I am going to sign my (RFA) tender today." It was sort of a story at the time. I was like, "Congrats, I think." He said he was tired of worrying about it. Nice guy--kind of nerdy--and outcast of sorts. But why he chose me to tell I have no idea. I think he was going into the stadium to sign it--not sure, but it was not a story until later than day. Going to OTAs back then was great because there were only a few people there--we were not the EBAY profiteers-just wanted photos and signatures at times, but mostly pics--so they would chat.

Elflien is the LG--he played pretty well beside the ROOKIE Becton last year--Becton was considered raw and transitioned better than most figured he would -Elflein gets some of that credit. Elflein will now get to break in another rookie LT--Christensen. I think they will groom Brown to take over at RG, as stated here, but he may be spending more time conditioning than learning the NFL game for a while, so I would speculate that Miller starts the season--just a guess. And it should not go unnoted that Undrafted Free Agent David Moore could be the heir apparent at C--not guard, where Paradis is probably playing his final season. "Per the Panthers website, Rhule even experimented with Moore at center during their time together in Mobile. Perhaps the Panthers coaching staff saw enough from him that they could envision him playing either guard or center. At worst, great G depth, at best, starting center in 2022.

We have options

I enjoyed it thoroughly. The only issue I heard (a petty one) if I heard correctly, was that Marshall (a player Cosell thought might go in the first round went 59th--I think the group said 39th--not that big of a deal, but if the Panthers got him 20 picks after you were all saying he was a good value--it makes it a great value-such a value that it makes you start looking for the reason he fell. Congrats--great interview---and thanks for personally bringing to our attention.

If this were true, would not QBs always be the first 5-6 players drafted, regardless of need?

I wonder what that drawing could bring on an online Panther auction if we go to the playoffs?

I was joking for the most part. Rarely does it benefit you to trash a former employee even if every word is true. However, my point was that if I had a microphone and spoke my mind, I could vent. The best rule is to go where you are valued and not try to convert a shithole into what you think it should be. If I had $40m in my bank, I might be more vocal.

To the author-- The Panthers got the 3rd overall player, a 23 year old QB (2018 draft), and the 8th overall pick )--a shut down, press CB, in the first round. They got a WR projected to go in the late first/early second at the end of the second round. They got an eventual starting LT by trading up in the third round. The got a TE that can knock snot out of your ass and they got a road-grading RG. They got depth at CB and RB, and they signed a lot of free agents that may not start now. Yeah--that sucks. And you think the OL has not been addressed, with 3 free agents and 2 picks that will probably start by next year? And you use NYJ stats to measure a QB when he was always playing one-dimensional, come-from-behind football, his WRs were confused and ran bad routes, he had no right side of an OL, and his defense and COACH sucked. You think he should post pro bowl numbers in that shithole of a program? You have done your homework, son. We have NEVER addressed more needs with quality than this year. And because you think someone sucks because they have a low Madden rating means little--no--nothing.

I think they fly home. I would not stay in Texas any longer than needed. I can't stand the place.