MHS831

He should be there day 3--according to the mocks I have seen.

Need to start looking in rounds 3-7 for the TE--and there will be some there. We are going to be sending our #9, #39, and 2024 first rounder to another team. I am not like some of you---mesmerized by the incredible workout warrior AP, but I would not be sad about it either--- I say we go after Stroud, get a TE (maybe in free agency) and make sure we develop an elite OL. Another WR too. But I loved the way Stroud was throwing the ball today--we just need to give him a clean pocket. AR would be better without a great OL, but he would miss some WRs too.

I noticed him as well--clean catcher, smooth. I am not a UNC homer (son a graduate, we pull for the heels, but not because we bought Wal-Mart shirts)--he stood out. I was like, "Who is that?" and then they said the name....

I like his release. he was under pressure a lot in KY--so I am not comparing him to young and stroud-- I worry that Levis is coming off like a jerk--can he be a good teammate? Does not seem humble or ready to learn--but this is a meat market. Herndon, to me, is starting to look better and better.

One of his sponsors has recently dropped out. Thought he was a Lion and a Wildcat? I am done with all this comedy for a while.

Favre was likeable. Rodgers is a penis. I have a friend that played in the NFL who knew him and said the late signing with the Jets and Vikings was because he hated camp. Not sure if that is common knowledge or not. He was Oscar worthy in one of my favorite movies, Something about Mary. He played himself--and he nailed it!

Quoting some recent article about interviews at the combine (The Colts did not interview Levis): Levis, 23, met with the Houston Texans (No. 2 pick), Carolina Panthers (No. 9) and Tampa Bay Buccaneers (No. 19), according to ESPN's David Newton. All three teams are in desperate need of a top signal caller. He said his visit with the Panthers—and coaches Frank Reich and Josh McCown—went well.

what is it about Green Bay? Did Aaron learn from Brett how to get attention during the offseason? Were all of his friends and loved ones in that dark chamber with him? I think they were.

I think Tremble could be a #3 TE, blocking back (FB)--we loved his blocking at Notre Dame, and then we put Ricci in that role. I dunno. Thomas' contract was nearly as dumb as the Anderson contract, causing me to lose faith in Fitterer (but I do not think he had much choice in the case of Thomas)

There are so many variables, and Andrew Yang should be on our staff--are you reading this Tepper?

Stroud and Young were given optimal conditions to perform at a high level, and they did. Richardson and Levis--not so much. It is closer to apples and oranges than most here realize. Richardson really ended his season better than his stats indicate. Did he respond to coaching? Did he figure some things out? Is he developing and growing at a higher rate than others? That is what makes this so hard to predict.

My phone is smoking hot from people texting me about what I think-- I think the Panthers will be aggressive to get a QB, but not trade the entire draft and a first next year aggressive. I see the Colts trading up with the Bears, who drop to #4. The Panthers will try to get them to drop to #9, and their offer will be aggressive--only if the Cardinals to not trade with Vegas, for example, so that Vegas can land a QB, taking the Panthers' option off the board.

Yes, but what about the thousandths of a second numbers? You give us nothing to go on here.

I still see them being aggressive on draft day--they have been very aggressive so far...

I randomly selected a TE from the starting NFL TE list, and the TE with the #13 receiving grade was chosen (the 11th ranked TE overall in this PFF analysis)--Evan Engram of Jacksonville. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-final-2022-tight-end-rankings To make this fair, I compared his numbers to not only Ian Thomas, but threw in Tommy Tremble, Stephen Sullivan, and even Giovanni Ricci, a TE/FB special teamer. Cumulatively, the TE position for the 2022 Carolina Panthers Ian Thomas (21 receptions, 197 yards, 0 TDs) Tommy Tremble (19 receptions, 174 yards, 3 TDs) Stephen Sullivan (2 receptions, 46 yards, 0 TDs) Giovanni Ricci (8 receptions, 100 yards, 0 TDs) All Panther TEs: 50 Receptions (2.94 per game), 517 yards (30.4 per game) and 3 TDs (basically, an extra point per game) Evan Engram: 86 receptions (5.56 per game), 914 yards (53.76 per game) and 6 TDs (over 2 points per game) Engram nearly doubled the production of the entire Panther TE roster. And now you know!

Don't know how you make him the first or even second overall pick, frankly.

244? Dang. Very Cam like.

I pray they stay put.As you say, we need 3 players. I think we go QB, DB, TE and OL depth in the draft. Not sure about WR--I think we are going to need a Defensive player or two as well--so we shall see.

Note to Huddle: This thread is going well. People making informed, differing points without acting omniscient, condescending, belligerent. Then I look at the names, and I see why--quality experienced posters who respect others' opinions. Like a wisp (yes, wisp) of cool air on an otherwise humid, unbearable day.

That last one should be called, "Plan 2019-present"

Same with Cam, and he had accuracy issues that caused him to use his arm a lot without the support of his legs--causing passes to sail or miss a lot. I think he used his arm to attempt to bail out the fact that his legs were in "run mode" and not in "pass mode" and that could have had as much wear and tear on his arm as contact over the years. Not basing this on any facts I have read, just my theory.

NFL Network claims that the Panthers (and Atlanta, and another team) are in talks with the Bears to move up to #1--Said it would take a lot for Carolina to move up. I know we have twice spoken with Herndon--maybe to eliminate him as an option, maybe to consider him a viable "plan B" maybe they like him as much as anyone else. Dunno. I think he is plan B, personally.

You mean that six years after being given about $36m he was homeless, sleeping on his mom's couch too?

A lot--if not all of you-- are wondering, "What does MHS think?" Ponder no more. Some of this is fair, and some of it is not fair, but bias is what it is. Bryce Young: Little, smart, and probably at his ceiling. A good college QB, but will he transition? His teams were usually better than the opponents-how will he fare when playing from behind? I think he will be good--maybe a game manager--but I do not see the reason for defenses to fear him. He will be a Colt or a Texan, in my opinion, and they are not good. As with a lot of Bama QBs, we see 1 dimension of them in college--the better WRs, better OL, the better defenses--playing from ahead---(same with Ohio St)---we don't see the QB with lesser WRs, a bad OL, and a defense that limits opportunities and makes you play catch up. CJ Stroud: Good size, nice accuracy when in a clean pocket. Has had nothing but the best WRs in college football, a solid OL. The best NFL QB in NFL history to play for Ohio State was not the starter so he transferred to LSU. The rest have fizzled out in the NFL--that scares me, and it is not fair to Stroud--he is my favorite. Will Levis: His OL struggled and he had some injuries. He has a rocket arm, but I have not seen enough from him to understand how he is a top 10 QB. I hope that he amazes the scouts at the Combine today so he moves up and a team like the Raiders grabs him. I see bust all over him--the Jeff George of our day. Anthony Richardson: As a starter in college, he basically has 1 season under his belt. His accuracy and stats were not good, but he did not have a strong supporting cast. Look at his final 7 or 8 games however (this from NFL Network) and you can see where the light was coming on for him. He was something like 17 TDs vs 5 ints. I think he reads defenses fairly well at this point. Will he be there at 9? The team that I fear grabbing him? Seattle.

0.215% chance of drafting this guy---there are literally 20-30 other players we would draft before him. Let's talk about it more.