MHS831

If Young and Stroud were the same size, I would take Young, and it would be close. But they are not, and this is a game for big boys.

Thanks for reading the Huddle and grasping that which is otherwise very apparent.

I realize he was not the starter until he was the starter, but this is the reason Mr. Irrelevant was so impressive this year. He actually won his first playoff game. In the playoffs historically, rookie QBs are .355 win percentage, and no rookie has ever taken a team to a Super Bowl. (I should read ahead before posting)

I read somewhere that he is looking for coin--knows the FA market is crap, I suppose.

And TE is a free agent signing that does not break the bank.

Should we think, "The Colts want Levis if picking at #4?" I mean, is that perception based on the idea that Young/Stroud are gone by #4? There are going to be some shocking picks during this year's draft. To counter that point, did the Colts try to trade with the Bears (to me, that was the obvious trade up partner) but maybe they did not have the WR the Bears wanted? I dunno. What are the lies and who are the spies?

When people say that AR-15 has the most 'upside" I have to pause. The only reason he is in the conversation is due to that upside, so it is baked into the conversation. If he reaches his maximum upside, will he be better than Young or Stroud if they reach their maximum upsides? And to reach his maximum upside, he will have to run the ball--hoping for a 10 year career. So even in the best case scenarios, he is not a top 2 pick. How many top NFL QBs were workout warriors at the combine? Do not be enamored by the impressive bells and whistles if the basic ingredients common to all successful QBs are not first considered.

It could be that the Panthers want Young, and thought to dangle the top 2 names that they don't want, on the odds that Houston is targeting one. Fearing that they might lose Stroud is just as potent as Richardson when it comes to motivating a trade. If they want Young as many predict, the Panthers will hear crickets.

who is debating for AR-15? yikes

I really do not think this will be a big problem.

We'd have to trade for him, and we don't have a ham sandwich or 7th rounder this year.

This might be the most background information I have ever read about a trade.

yes. Fields needs the WR now, not in 2024 or 2025. They wanted to know that they had him before free agency. It makes sense.

Do I sense a "call out?" DAAAAAAAMMMN.

Interesting comments. Made me think. See bold under your statements for my views on each.

I prefer Stroud, but I also hate the idea of passing on Young and his intellect. Can we go wrong with either? I think it is like asking would you like a Jaguar or a Porche. (To put this into terms that Huddlers can understand, it is like choosing between a 74 AMC Gremlin and a 75 Chevy Vega---too tough to call)

The DJ Moore trade may have crushed his chances---if they can move Cade Mays to compete with Elf at C and spend the $10m on a WR, they may have to do that. I even remember someone at the combine, when asked about Bozeman, say something like "we are trying, but you can't sign everyone...." (That is a gross paraphrase, but I was a bit discouraged when I heard it, and it was before we lost Moore)

There are quite a few Centers in free agency and C is pretty deep in the draft. I think he will be signed for about $9m per by Friday.

Who was it that said, "Watch the combine, then go back and look at the tape." ?

Yes. The man is hard to watch without being impressed. However, at the QB spot, you really need precision, accuracy, processing, and leadership--things we don't see a the combine as much as we see 3 cone drills and vertical leaps. Running a 40 may be impressive--and he is an impressive athlete--but as you say, he is a project. Workout warriors have always been fool's gold at the combine-so you can't get all smitten with a player by being overwhelmed by things that are not the essential tools required for success at the position. For example, I may be impressed that an OT can do 37 reps on the bench, but if he has not feet, upper body strength is not important. Did this recent Lamar Jackson snubbing hurt AR-15's stock? They are fairly similar.

2023 NFL DRAFT - FIRST OVERALL PICK ODDS (Thought I would post this so we can see how it changes as we approach the draft) CJ Stroud (Ohio State, QB) -300 Bryce Young (Alabama, QB) +300 Anthony Richardson (Florida, QB) +450 Will Levis (Kentucky, QB) +3000 Will Anderson (Alabama, LB) +10000 Jalen Carter (Georgia, DL) +10000 https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/draft/ From another source: Though there are still nearly seven weeks until the NFL Draft, Griffe and Cipollini agree that Carolina is trending toward taking Stroud. "Stroud makes the most sense here, given both his performance at the combine and his overall makeup as a QB, going into Frank Reich and Josh McCown’s system," Griffe said. "Richardson is the wild card here, though. I could see a scenario where the Panthers fall in love with his athletic ability and rely on their experienced staff to coach him up." https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/c-j-stroud-new-betting-favorite-to-be-no-1-pick-in-2023-nfl-draft

I see Washington as a player who could do both--he was emerging as a route runner and he has hands. I dunno if he will be the player he was at Ga in the NFL--I think he has AR-15ish upside as a TE--we shall see. I agree that a TE might fall to the third, but not one that would be better than what we have---but there are literally dozens of ways to approach our needs---I am sure they will do the right thing--but I would rather have an A list TE than a B list WR--we need to think beyond 2023 as much as possible.

Stole this from the Eagles when they were sobbing about losing the Super Bowl. https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/nfl-free-agency-2023-tracking-which-players-have-been-cut

why are we still seeing this on the huddle? Make us look so 2021.

Let us not forget the Chosen one. I gotta go