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His experience as a starter and college statistics/tape does not qualify him to be the first overall selection--not when 2 others are sitting there with all boxes pretty much checked. Yes, he is a great athlete. Many great athletes in the NFL bust. Killing the combine and pro days is not where gems are found, it is where fool's gold is found. Buyer beware. I want a fast processor, not a track star at QB. That's just my preference.

She could be BSing. Network television does not validate research--you are assuming that her research is valid. That is called, "bias." as long as there is bias, and all research has some margin for error, you should not assume its legitimacy. So just because she mentions some statistic on which to base her projection, she does not discuss other variables, etc. It is good, fun TV, and without fantasy football, she would not exist. Amusement purposes only, until she has been peer reviewed and validated. I am explaining my opinion, and why I am unwilling to accept all she reports at face value. Without my background in research, I would go along with it--and there are times I want to believe it. But the secret to research is identifying the central problem and acknowledging variables that may impact the treatment---if she is providing statistics related to the symptoms of that problem, then her outcome will be skewed. You have that option to believe it, and Freland may be undertaking thorough, proper research, but I have no way of knowing that. She is just a hot babe with data--and that makes for good TV.

By the way, she did bring up some interesting points--and I used them in my original response. I have tried to be objective--on the fence--resisting picking the next QB as long as I could--arguing for both sides, etc. After reading this, I am convinced it should be--will be--Stroud. That bit about drop back makes sense--a bigger drop back and 3 seconds to throw---what a huge advantage for a short/small QB--one that he will not have in the NFL. As I stated, most passes are between 2.4 and 2.7 seconds, and a deeper drop back gives an NFL DB a split second more time to recover. That is a concern--and it could be nothing, but she brings up something that directly addresses how Young is adjusting to overcome his limitations--very valid points.

No--she is not--she uses concrete data to support her assumptions. She is into predictive analytics, analyzing patterns to predict outcomes--if you can share a statement of how accurate her predictions have been, then do so. Basically, she is a fortune teller who uses data to guess. I have yet to see a chart or data to determine her accuracy--but that does not mean it does not exist. My statement was to say that I am not sold on her--but I have not delved deep into researching her predictions and the alignment with outcomes. It is based in probability--and we all make decisions every day using the same strategies--I just have not seen her reliability examined--so until I do, I am not convinced--which does not mean there is not something to her work--it is simply not presented in a manner that research should be presented to establish validity--if they did that, they would lose their audience (me included--its boring!). That is the only reason I am skeptical. A palm reader may guess my dog's name, but until I see her methods of inquiry, I am skeptical. Cynthia is fun, and her rationale is very interesting, but there is some cherry picking going on, based on what I can tell.

Have you researched her, or are you basing your opinion on her hype/promotional information? I am basing my opinion on inconsistencies in her statements. She rarely provides the statistical makeup of her argument--but she has a background in research. So do I--so you should listen to me.

In my opinion, Frelend could be BSing the NFL world with most of her "analytics" but she does make some good points here that give us reason to consider different perspectives. For example, if Young is able to overcome his size and stay safe, the next question is "how?" A deeper drop. She mentions tackles, and that is a good point. A deeper drop makes the path the QB more linear for edge rushers, who are currently challenged with their bends. A deep drop lessens the angle, given the OTs the challenge of facing more power and speed. Although the difference is slight, it can be significant. To compensate, the OT also has a more linear drop, (an ideal OT drop is approximately 45 degrees outward) and this new challenge might cause that drop to increase to 55 degrees, for example). That reduces the size of the pocket because it causes the initial contact to be inside a smaller pocket. I think it was Byron Bell and Mike Remmers who were dropping at nearly the same angle of the QB--straight back--forcing Cam to step up or spin out. Problem was, Cam was not that deep and his athleticism could extend plays. However, Frelend hits on a great point without getting into the details. The impact on the OTs. In other words, if all this is true, it places a tremendous pressure on your OTs--something that may not be exposed in college, but in the NFL, it will be exploited--in my opinion. If you want to read a VERY THOROUGH statistical breakdown of "Time to Throw" (TTT) this Colts article is second to none: https://www.stampedeblue.com/2021/10/16/22727432/fine-lets-talk-about-time-to-throw Based on these stats, it sure seems as if the most pass attempts are between 2.4 and 2.7 seconds.

And where in my comment did I say, "we just watching the tape?" Read carefully before you criticize a statement that was not made by anyone other than you so you could argue against it.

watch the combine-watch the pro day-then watch the tape. The tape does not lie,

The STIGMA of smallish QBs (and running QBs for that matter) may influence a tough decision. That was the point--and it was a mere suggestion not intended to be submitted into state's evidence seeking a prosecution. It addresses human nature and bias---that's all.

yeah, the idea of getting a good QB on a rookie, seventh round contract for 3 more years has to be enticing---all things equal. They have gone budget QB this season--and they are all young QBs--Darnold is 25 (will be 26 in June)--about the same age and Tennessee's Hooker. Lance is only 22 (May 9), and Purdy is older than Lance (23-December). if lance does not win the job in year 3, bust,

If he was the #3 overall pick and he has barely played a down--while 2022 Mr. Irrelevant is now inked in as the starter for his performance in 2022--I would say that is not what SF hoped to get out of him. Bust status is probably determined when the team gives up on the player and moves him out.

The word was "smallish" which might imply that he is smaller than the average QB, which he is.

Tom Brady played in Charlotte.

With our OL, the rules to protect QBs, and our defense, you have to think this would be the best landing spot for Young. (If you are wondering how the defense protects Young, you have to consider situational football. If Young is not playing from behind, he can throw the ball away, slide, or hit the checkdown more often. Forcing things when you are behind is a way to get hurt.) That is not to say that I think they will take Young--it is to say that Young should be praying for Carolina over Houston.

i think they will draft stroud and we will cheer. Tua and Murray, both rather smallish QBs, getting hurt this year may be enough to sway them to take the safer (healthwise) pick over the best processor. We shall see.

We know that 3 of these 7 players will absolutely not be drafted by the Panthers.

I agree, but I am not sure Luvu plays the edge on a regular basis--I think his base position will be ILB. Of course--that is just my take---waiting to see what happens

His sources also say, "Thank you for your order. Pull around to the window."

Just a suggestion: 3 numbers

I heard the might, but no Jim Ottos. (00). I do not understand the difference between 0 and 00 than 9 and 99.

He gave me poo because I was joking about the average age/maturity level of the Huddle--not his son--so it might be a sensitive subject--your son was not targeted. Be proud.

With Young, we are penalizing him because he might get hurt. We did not do that with Cam, who had an 8-year career (do not count the last 3 years--they were bad).

I agree. It sounds as if Reich is making the choice, but he is actually saying, "I am making the choice, but I will not know his preference until 10 days (roughly) before the draft. I would add that I am sure they will report that they were on the same page.

13 and a half--buddy!

I see YGM as a 4-3 DE or a 3-4 DE on passing situations. He is 6-5, 265, and ran a sub 4.6 40 at his pro day--so I dunno--a perfect 4-3 DE. According to the Bleacher Report, the ideal size for a 3-4 OLB is 6'3" 240.