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Betting odds and QB landing spots after is
MHS831 replied to panther4life's topic in Carolina Panthers
If I am Houston, and I don't love Stroud, I am taking Will Anderson because he seems like a great player AND a great person. Saw some interviews and I think he is great. Houston still has the #12 pick and enough draft capital to move back up. At 12, I feel a QB will fall to them, if they are willing to take Levis. If they want AR, I am guessing the Cardinals might want to move back again, assuming the Colts traded up with them-Houston could move back up to #4 and get AR. In other words, the Texans are sitting in a good place right now if they are not in love with Stroud. -
Betting odds and QB landing spots after is
MHS831 replied to panther4life's topic in Carolina Panthers
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My policy? Never have a running back on a second contract. I can say that I literally have never had a running back on a second contract in my life, so there's that. treat RBs like college players--4 years and you are done. I can't find the stats, but if you look at the data, second contracts hardly ever pay out in the NFL for RBs.
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I need to pay better attention. I tried doing my job today, and it looks like I missed something. Oh well, the light will reach me soon enough. At least I still have an account. My problem is, I don't pay much attention to the names unless they are the old timers--
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Besides QB, what do y'all think are out biggest draft needs?
MHS831 replied to Panthero's topic in 2023 NFL Draft
Here is how I see it: Tier 1: OLB/Edge I just don't see Haynes, Barno, or YGM as being good enough to play opposite Burns. I have this at Tier 1 because we need a starter or rotational guy day 1, imo. By the way, if NT is a bigger problem than I realized, I could see us taking Mazi Smith at 39 if there. Tier 2: CB, G. I think CB is a bigger problem than we are acknowledging. DJax has a torn Achilles, Horn has been a bit fragile, and Henderson and Taylor were posterized by Evans and I can't forget it. The draft is pretty deep at CB as well--gotta fish while the fishing is good. I think they may want to pull Christensen out as a swing T and find a starting LG--Cade was not bad last year--As for a backup C, we have Mays and McCown. Tier 3: WR, TE, FS: The reason I have WR so low is that I do not see the need big enough for us to bypass an edge in round 2. After that, we have a full roster of smallish slots--which is what this draft is all about. TE? I would have had this #1, but we signed Hurst and have Tremble and Thomas---not great, but not our biggest need either. -
but y'all count A.M. too.
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There was a point when Fitterer was talking about Young as if "this is what we will do." Instead of "this is what we would do..." His verbs were not really speculative (modal) and they were in the future tense. They really weren't said with "if" to demonstrate a conditional situation. So he was either careless with his verbiage or his grammar ain't none two good. Yes, I am digging through the trash to find evidence.
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Stop it.
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I have seen him mocked in the first...but usually day 2...think Anquan Bolden potential (and body style). I also like Scott a lot--smaller and can be a special teams ace.
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My opinion? Forget going after WR in this draft--JSN might be a second rounder in other years. I think we are not going to do much more at WR. The draft is deep at Edge, CB, and TE. We have needs at those positions. I think we might grab an Edge and CB---maybe or maybe not a TE--and we will grab an OL.
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It is fun for the offseason, but I would not take stock tips from these guys. They have nothing else to do, they have inside info, and they are still a bunch of idiots. Of course, there are people on the Huddle who definitively know everything, so we should just listen to them. I am still torn, I get the risk, but Young is the best QB. You can't NOT pick him because he might get hurt. They all might get hurt and they all might suck.
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And if you are worried about contact, who gets hit more often than a WR or a RB with violent collisions? Wes Welker had a great career and he was 5'9" 185. Darren Sproles, a RB, was 5' 6" and 190. DeShaun Jackson was 5' 10", 175. These players were hit repeatedly by NFL players going full speed--Safeties, Linebackers, defensive linemen--and they had long careers. I get the risk, I really do--but if you build an OL and teach the QB to get the ball out quickly on most occasions--and you teach him to slide and get out of bounds--you can minimize hits to the QB. And that should be the rule for all QBs--because they all get hit. Think about it--if Cam Newton were in this draft, you would want him because you fear injury to Young. Cam played about 8 years at a high level. Another thing about injury--when I hurt my shoulder in college and had to have surgery, the surgeon explained that my rotator cuff was not at the same angle as some other players, making me susceptible to injury. In other words, I had no natural support for the shoulder when facing direct contact. It was genetic, and my father had the same problem at South Carolina. Some of this is genetics.
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Yes, it can't be 55% one way 45% the other, it has to be all in or all out. It is a tough decision, and to really think it through means considering the possibilities from both perspectives. And it surely should not be personal--nobody knows how good Young will be, or Stroud.
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I don't know why it is important to confront people whose opinion is different. I see why some wanted Stroud and even if young is the pick, that does not prove them wrong.
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Introducing The Athletics Dane Brugler 7-round mock draft
MHS831 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I like the first two picks and I really like CB Smith. I think you have to find OL help. I give this a B because 3 picks will make an impact, imo. -
The thing about Sanders (we are on the same page) is they say he plays edge better than inside--basically, he is a pass rusher who can rush from the ILB spot or move outside as the edge. To your point, is the best edge/OLB on the board...that Leota would be an interesting addition. Maybe they were talking to him because he is local (Asheville) and might want to be added to the Undrafted roster.
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Yeah, I think he will go earlier than people think-most of my mock simulators have him available at 39, but if you watch his tape--he has first round talent. The good thing about picking at 39--some projected first rounder will drop. And I still love edge rusher in round 2---ton of talent.
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I think some caught on, and it should be obvious to you by now. It is like you did not get the joke, which is OK, but then you feel empowered to attack its premise, taking it literally. Then when it is explained to you, you say, "that's dumb". You use the pronoun "We" here--not sure others see you ask their spokesperson. Move on, Padre. Maybe the next bit of sarcasm will not fly by you like a stranger in a crowd. Sorry you didn't get it. Now stop being petty.
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The Vegas Odds I saw about 5 days ago now say -300 for Young (giving him a 75% probability). Don't forget, people, I posted a link to the 4 Ohio State QBs who have been drafted in the first round, and the CURSE is REAL: 1. Died in his 20s before ever playing a game. 2. Played about 12 games and went to prison--just got out at age 61 recently. 3. Died in his 20s crossing the street. 4. Plays for the Bears and completes less than 60% of his passes where he is 6-21 with 21 interceptions--by far the most successful. 5. Joe Burrow, the best Ohio State QB ever, won a national Championship at LSU after transferring the hell out of Columbus.
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Another very interesting "gem" is Eke Leota from Asheville. He played at Northwestern and was a graduate transfer who played at Auburn. He got hurt week 4 or so, and had 2 sacks at the time. He is a large, run-stuffing OLB who can pressure the passer. 6' 4" and 257 llbs, he is under the radar---and should be there late in the draft (round 5). He has met with 4 teams, one being the Panthers who had him in for a private workout. A strongside OLB is a need, imo. From the Oct 3 2022 article about him: "A 6-foot-4, 257-pound graduate transfer, Leota has 17 tackles, including five for loss, and two sacks. He had seven sacks last season after transferring from Northwestern. "Eku is a big loss," Harsin said. "He's an emotional leader. He's one of the smartest football players we have."