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I have this --not sure about the OT NE takes, but Campbell does seem to fit....short arms and all--he can play. Jeanty the Raiders is a near lock--but the pick that is interesting to me is Jax. I have Jax taking Graham, like you. But I keep hearing the rumor that they really want TMac. I see Sanders falling. Some say, "there is always a team that will reach" and that is a valid point. This top of the draft is weird in that most teams have a starting QB. if he gets passed Cleveland, he could fall. The Giants have 2 QBs added to the roster and will want to give them weapons. I don't see them doing to Russell what Atlanta did to Cousins. Lotta folks think they will jump on Sanders, but they have a hall of famer and a good backup--to take Sanders, they would have to pass on Hunter or Carter---too much risk. After that, NE has a QB, Jax has a QB, Raiders have a QB, and the Jets COULD feel that they have a QB in Fields--after Cleveland, I think the Jets are the next possible landing spot, and I am not sure they will take him--Fields was pretty good in Pittsburgh before Wilson took over. Panthers have a QB, and you could even argue that New Orleans now has a QB in Carr--but the chance that they might take Sanders will be enough to get the Colts or Steelers to call Dan Morgan. If the Colts have given up on Richardson, it probably will be the team that needs a QB in best position to move up--not sure how they feel about Jones--I could see a rebirth like Geno Smith if they gave him a complete offense. It is possible they are happy about Jones and Pittsburgh trades up.

Well said. we usually develop our opinions based on the websites we frequent, highlight reels, discussion boards, and NFL Network. In that process, we call ourselves "informed," but we really are not. Unfortunately, neither are the experts. It still blows my mind that first rounders have successful careers 53% of the time, and second rounders are about half of that. So as hard as we (and they) pound the table for this player or that player, it is a crap shoot in the first round and in the second, it is worse than the odds playing craps in Vegas. And they (the experts) have combines and pro days and interviews etc. and they still suck at it. All that to say, I am wrong as much as the GMs are-that should make me feel good, but it does not. You have to recall who you pounded the table for in the drafts four or five years ago and see where they are now. Acting like I know and they do not is stupid, so I hope that they see what I cannot. I think the best chance of hitting a home run in round 1: Jeanty.

I said I am old school. With ya.

not the same thing. And it is "Were" his shoelaces tied differently? I did not ask for anyone's approval--never do. Crazy hair is not about money. Funny Shorts are not about money-since you asked. Dollar signs are about money. Here is what I should have explained because I assumed everyone already understands this: Somebody is going to reach for Sanders. Some team, their fans, and their GM are looking for a QB to get them to the next level. He shows up with Diamond Necklaces, talking about how he is mentally superior to everyone else, wearing a dollar sign shirt--if that is what your looking for, he is your guy. On your next job interview, tie your shoelaces differently, make your hair look crazy, and wear funny looking shorts--and a shirt with a huge $ sign on the back. Good luck.

Just watched Sanders at his Buffalo showcase (pro day to mortals). He had a dollar sign on the back of his shirt. I am old school, and that would bother me if I were a GM--he is destined to be a mediocre QB on many boards, so why would you make a team think $$$ is your motivation? He is already a millionaire. His dad is a millionaire. We get it, but maybe a football on your shirt would have been more appropriate. I am sure someone will say "But that is his symbol or trademark." I don't know that it is, but if so, he chose it. His towel on the field had a $ too--in college, when most of your team is not making bank. I just smell entitlement. Talk me out of it.

Addison is a good example of a late bloomer who found his niche. We just cant draft another Everette Brown.

I thin Good comparison--But Barno was a sixth rounder---so Shemar is much riskier, which illustrates your point.

We have added DTs/DEs that can get to the QB and collapse the pocket. for that reason alone, our pass rush should be better. Most QBs nullify a 9 tech by stepping up. Take that away

And you have to think of roster spots--When I was in college the coach said, "This is the depth chart. Look at it closely--some will be happy, some will be upset. Understand that by the end of the season, this will look totally different. So save this until December, and compare it to the depth chart then." So I tend to think of the bottom of the roster that way--does a player show that he is trying to become a starter? I did see it in Johnson a bit and in Hardy a lot. I am not seeing it with these guys. I also consider the fact that Clowney will be gone in 2026 and Wonnum will not be under contract. We have Jones for two years. So if we add an edge in 2025 and again in 2026, we should be fine. That is why part of me wants to take our time and see if anything materializes, but I just don't see it. I have more faith in Barno, fwiw.

This is all I could find---and it is quoting Joe Person as the source. https://sports.yahoo.com/article/georgia-edge-rusher-receiving-major-111524875.html

I keep thinking about Charles Johnson and Greg Hardy--both emerged in year 3. However, they are expendable, and if your line chart is not trending upwards, you are sitting still or falling behind. They have not been that bad when they play, but we need a difference maker.

I would say that the majority of Huddlers do not want Stewart or Williams. Is that a fair statement? We will have better safeties who are dawgs in run support, hopefully better LB play, much better DLinemen, and our CBs are good tacklers. This player needs to be a beast who can get to the QB. Let the other guys play the run--see ball, get ball.

I see our situation this way--we need a guy who can get outside at the 9, pin his ears back, and get to the QB. He should have been working on his hands, his moves, and his strength. At #8, we do not need to be drafting a player based on "athleticism" or "upside" or "ability." That is what college was for. We can't afford to miss. So if we take Williams, they better be right about him. We have Clowney, Wonnum, Jones, Barno, Johnson--but this draft is full of players that can pretty much do the same things--bigger, 4-3 types and, in our case, pass rushers who are under performing. In my view, the players in the first round that might be good fits have baggage (Pearce, Green). For this reason, I am hoping we wait until round 2 to find the "sweet spot" in edge rushers for the Panthers: Princely is my favorite, but I am warming up to J. Stewart.

I agree--I was just afraid of Ball for that reason.

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I am not Verge, but until she chimes in, I would suggest that you watch both Texas games if you are looking for hope--I understand that he was injured some this year. However, if you have a good game twice against one team, it could be that one team did not have an answer for him. It could also mean that Texas saw what you did the first time and could not stop you. ----Not Verge

That is why i LOVE this time of year--trying to predict what teams will do---

Not a popular pick, but I am afraid you could be right.

on another thread in the draft section, I mentioned (today) that FanDuel had the over/under on Sanders between 7.5 and 8.5--they think he is going at #8---I hope so--a trade back would be ideal. I say watch the Colts--they guessed the Giants.

I would stay away from Shedeur Sanders for this reason. I was equally concerned about Lamelo Ball, but he is injured too much for his father to complain.

If the Browns do not take Sanders, I do not think the Giants will. They have Russell and Winston--just does not sound like a team taking a QB at 3--lotta jobs on the line in NY--but I think they like Dart or even another QB more than Sanders-just a hunch, but that is how I feel. If FanDuel has a 7.5/8.5 over under on him, they have to think he will fall and that spot suggests Jets or a trade up---The Jets are taking Fields seriously. Anything could happen, but qbs drafted in the top 10 that were not rated in the top 10 bust for the most part.

yeah, the avatar switching messes me up too.

I think there is a pretty steep dropoff after 8 if Walker is there. I would imagine: Warren, TE Emmenwori, Starks S Barron, Johnson CB Campbell, Banks OT Williams, Stewart Edge (Nooooooo) Golden, McMillan, Egbuka WR That is about it....

In fairness to me, I was telling people NOT to spread these rumors about you. I thought you would thank me. It only makes sense, however, that your extra ammo pack would need a bigger bazooka.

I mention this topic in the new thread I just put in the 2023 Draft section. The Jets would really love Hunter (based on some intense research (web surfing) I did. While I think they take hunter, the local writers seem really focused on the OL