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I get it. this is the conservative approach, but we are talking about a right tackle.He is a player I really like,but at 19? This mock would appeal to the people who want an OT in round 1, but maybe addressing the RT spot is the way to go. Not sure if Miller can play both sides. He would sit behind Moton. With the LBs that are predicted to be there is round 2, hard to explain the TE--although this one is solid. Stowers is a very good TE and he would upgrade the position and offense immediately. Farmer: If he skipped his SR season, how did he play in the SR bowl? Farmer is a good OL, but I this would be another pick who sits year 1. Very conservative with a practical eye to the future--if you consider the $$ they will pay Bryce, it is possible Moton and at least one of the guards is not on the 2027 roster. In that case,, this is very nice. However, if you are looking for help in 2026, this is minimal.
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Yes. Need increases the appeal, as does depth of talent at the position. If you need a QB and there is a G who rates much higher, you are not taking G, for example. I also think you must consider the cap. If I can keep my QB on a rookie contract (since the position is not factored in) when the average QB in the NFL earns $35m (guess), as opposed to the average guard ($10m or so) I get more cap room--and the upgrades to those players must factor into the decision. It is easy to say "BPA" if you are wearing blinders, but if get a QB on a rookie deal and a guard and tight end in free agency....it makes no difference if the Guard is predicted to be a hall of famer--you take the Qb. (these are just examples)
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No LBs. I can see WR Cooper here, and Concepcion (nearly 10% drop rate) bothers me...and it is interesting that they brought it Bisontis--maybe to see him snap? ... Looks like they want an emergency QB from the UDFA pile....One might project S as a day 2 pick, based on this.
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I am just hoping for a first-rounder who can catch and knows where the sidelines are.
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Not kidding--I met the green one a decade or so ago. He was the last living cast member. Told me some stories about the munchkins--
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I am not reading the other posts before I say this: If he is an UDFA, I cannot think of a better place to go--an offense sorta built for a small QB. I sense a bit of Johnny Manziel in him, but he could settle into an emergency QB role here--He won at Vandy. Beat Bama. Worth a late round pick or UDFA contract. Now,, I am going to post this and then read what the Huddle has to say. (I admit I don't know much about him, but the highlights? He seems to be able to do what Bryce can do--maybe better because his team was not Alabama).
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I would add that it is probably likely that you need a T during the season--I am wildly speculating that they like something about Forsythe. However, that is not enough. We need 4 players who can play OT in the NFL---we have 3. That suggests that we are going to add an OT at some point. Perhaps related, but probably a pure depth move: Brady Christensen is an interesting situation--we should sign him. He is likely to miss the first 2 months of the 2026 season, and he will be 30. He can play all OL positions. That would give depth when it is usually most needed--the last half of the season. With his injury, I doubt his phone is ringing much. I think I would offer a 2-year deal (1.5 if you want to be realistic) for the vet minimum.
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If it were me, I would take Proctor over the rest, but I would have a firm understanding and (if this is legal) an escape clause in his contract if he decides to spend his signing bonus at the Pancake Barn (the edible kind). After that, Freeling and then Lomu to a lesser degree. I really like Miller, but he is a RT only, based on my understanding. I am not dismissing the quality of Tackles that are expected to go day 3. They have issues, but they also have time to develop. I think of it this way: When would Freeling have been drafted in 2025? What happened between 2025-2026 that moved him from a mid-rounder to a top 16 player? Find a guy with upside if you are not starting him day 1 and develop him. That is how I would approach it--I am sure there are others who might do it many different ways.
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I feel the same. OK, tell me which OT is on your radar if you were the GM--
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I can agree with this statement if you really like the OT who is available. The fact that they are "rare" (along with QB, Edge) positions to find should also play into it. If we have a roster that allows for BPA, you should (as you say) consider the difficulty it takes to find a replacement. Furthermore, you don't want a rookie playing LT--regardless of who it is. All that to demonstrate how I get the decision to draft a T if they like the player and have a need that could be worse than I understand right now. Morgan signed a starting LT and a swing T in free agency. He signed a starting Center. We also need a "Z" WR, DT, S, TE and LB. Of those, we need 3 starters for 2026 (Z-WR, LB, S) and 2 rotational players (DT, and TE). C and OT are the only players who, if we draft them, are likely to sit and not start or work into a rotation. The Panthers seem to be in "Win Now" mode. For that reason, I do not see OT or C being drafted until the last day.
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I would think the surgeon would have a prognosis about recovery time and opine on the success of the surgery. As for Moton, we have been monitoring his knee for some time. How is it too early? You are collecting as much information as possible to develop a strategy on the draft. Nobody can predict anything ever--I think you misunderstood my comment--not sure I was as clear as I needed to be.
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We went with the Jag and got a really nice luggage cargo carrier. Drilled some air holes, and we were good to go. I get it. I just think they know about Moton's knee and Ickey's prognosis more than they are telling us. If good in both cases, Morgan may not go OT. If either is questionable, I hope we go OT...I am not a huge fan of the OTs that could be there at 19, but I would get it. Lomu if Ickey is bad, maybe blake Miller if Moton is the concern. I could see it.
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9% drops? That scares me. However, the average in the NFL (drops) is around 6.5%. Having played in college with a variety of QBs (practice--we had 9 qbs during the 2 years I played), I can say some throw an easier to catch ball than others. Personally, I see his stock rising and it seems by April 23, he might be a top 15 pick.
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This is the best reason for drafting a T--Moton's knee is also a big concern for me--I am not sure if it is still justified, but leg injuries for big men can be degenerative. I have argued against it--I think Morgan will think it has been addressed and will draft a Late-round OT with upside. Forsythe? What the hell was that? I am leaning WR (guessing what they might do) because they really don't have a Z WR, based on Cosell's description of the position. TE is in play. DT is in play. The thing I am most confident about? LB in round 2.
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I think they wanted to dispell the rumors of his work ethic, but that is speculation. Interesting point. I am thinking (right now) that they might go WR again.
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Personally, I have argued that the pick is probably unlikely to be an OT in an effort to read the tea leaves, but I am an OL fanatic and would get it. By now, they probably have info about Ickey and I think the decision will be based on the likelihood of his return to form by 2027. Thanks to Cosell, I am more inclined to lean towards the Z WR and Concepcion or Cooper. After he explained it, I felt that it is a need. DT could easily be the pick. Who did we get to replace Robinson? I think any GM looks to upgrade a position, not simply replace. That would suggest an early draft pick, maybe? I am not happy about having Scott back. Please tell me that was a depth move. When it comes to TE, I pray we don't love Sadiq. I doubt it is a CB, C, or Edge, but if an elite CB or Edge fell to us....(to your point). I think we could try to trade back if there is a market.
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There are some guards and OTs with short arms that project to C, so it is difficult to know--Heck, the RT from Utah I think, who was considered a mid first rounder, is now being discussed as a G or C because his arms are 32" or so.
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2025 Draft Re-Grades (Or, One Idiot Doubles Down)
MHS831 replied to Joe Bear's topic in Carolina Panthers
I was down on TMac. Work ethic. I wanted Golden. Golden got hurt and had 360 yards. I did predict WR, however. -
Who did you have in mind?
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Forgot about him. I am not in april shape.
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I had the same thought--there are 4-5 Tigers they could use--DT, Edge, RT, (I don't want to say QB, but) QB. Tex AM seems solid in areas of need. Last week I might have said Oregon. Of course, Ohio State's entire roster will be drafted before 19...but if one falls....
