BIGH2001

I still remember specifically Ricky Williams scoring on a run play on the last play of the saints game. I also remember that team losing a huge lead against Buffalo late in the season and a two score lead against Washington. They were also competitive against the rams in Charlotte. They didn’t really quit until the last two games.

Recency bias will play a role in this response. Also some people aren’t even old enough to remember 2001. Having watched all 3 teams I never went into a game in 2001 thinking we didn’t have a chance to win. That team lost a ton of close games and was better than this year’s team and 2010. 2010 and 2023 are very close for me. I’d have to give the slight edge to this year being the worst because the 2010 roster had some talent and some of those players went on to play on the good teams between 2013 and 2016-17. From a talent standpoint, 2023 is the worst team in franchise history and would have finished 0-17 if not for two miracle drives at the end of games. Only team in league history to not hold a 4th quarter lead. Yeah, that does it for me.

Fitterer was in CYA mode at that point. Accepting any offer would have meant admitting he screwed up not taking the rams offer last year. Probably one of the most incompetent GMs in league history. Makes all those stupid deals and then gets gun shy with the one he should have made.

They started drafting much better after the Manziel era including 2017 where they got Garrett and David Njoku in the same draft. Fitterer has spent years wasting top round picks on useless players which has set the franchise back to where it is now. Hurney got poo on but the team never fell to levels like this largely because he always hit on his first rounders and they became foundational pieces of the team. It’s no coincidence that our best player on the roster was his last first round pick. Meanwhile Fitterer brought us a guy who cant stay on the field, a left tackle as bad as Byron Bell, and an undersized QB who just completed a season where we saw next to nothing to give anyone hope for the future. Fix the front office and we can be a lot better or at least able to be competitive.

Yeah right. If he had that kind of moral high ground he would have said so already in his statement.

Will wait to see who the new GM is. If it’s someone like Dan Morgan he’s more safe than he should be. The right answer is he’s the starter going into next season but should be evaluated critically with consideration towards moving on if there’s a repeat of this year and not much growth is shown.

This is how we end up with Dan Morgan as the new GM.

It gives me some hope that as bad as he’s been as an owner, Tepper is still trying to make moves needed to win. The Jets are keeping Joe Douglas who has as bad a record as Fitterer for another season. If everyone here was correct and Fitterer was just a plant to feed Tepper’s ego and let him be the actual GM then he wouldn’t have made this move.

How fondly will we remember the fitterer/Rhule and Fitterer/reich era of our franchise?

Honestly one of the worst in NFL history given the moves he made. Probably right next to whoever was the browns GM when they were 1-31 over two seasons. This team had the potential to go 0-17 and was lucky to get two wins.

He does realize that he probably played himself into the franchise tag right?

Probably not

Still hasn’t been fired yet.

I’m old enough to remember him being in here advertising his failed pizza restaurant. Is that who we want running this thing? It might be the best we can do though.

Zach Wilson had a passer rating over 100 twice this season. Even the awful QBs have a game here and there. This was nothing more than a fluke given that he followed up it by looking worse than he has all year.

The upside is even being average would be an improvement. The bar is low. Also, Tepper will have to give a new coach some slack due to his reputation and how the last two hires have gone. Also the division isn’t scaring anyone. its not a great job but there are still attractive things about it. My first order of business would be to make sure I had a good backup QB for when young needs to benched next season.

That’s because Green Bay left the A gap wide open. I could have picked up the first down on that play.

This is the low point. Tied for the longest stretch of non-playoff seasons with 96-03 but by 02 we had started a turnaround and were in the supper bowl the following year. This team is comparable to 2010 but without the first round pick to draft a good QB. The 2001 team could sometimes score points and would beat this team by two touchdowns. 2010 is the closest comparison but that was an intentional tank by the front office due to the upcoming lockout and being in between franchise QBs. In hindsight it was a brilliant move. This year we actually tried to win games and had a dumbass owner and GM who somehow thought we were on the cusp of greatness. LMAO. Tepper needs to go into hiding and not be seen or heard from until about 2026.

Lawrence is the QB to whom most people compared Bryce’s rookie season. Well 3 seasons in he hasn’t been all that great himself.

Exactly. It’s certainly not a great roster but this o-line played well enough last year to have most people thinking it wasn’t a weakness coming into the season. Some of that was playcalling and some of it was not having a 5’5” QB taking the snaps.

Just ask yourself: is there any way you see this guy threatening to get to a Super Bowl? His performance this year was laughable outside of one half and two drives. He is already smaller than 99% of historical NFL players outside of kickers and punters. His arm strength on corner and sideline throws is high school level and he can be brought down if you fart on him. He’ll get next season because Tepper can’t take any more hits for being impatient right now. But he’s not the guy and the sooner someone in charge realizes that the better.

It’s hard to put into words how much I hate that fat fukker

Im not sure that we will see a modern era football team get shut out in two straight games ever again. Even 2008 was a different era of football.

we have Clausen 2.0. Just accept it and move on