Jon Snow

Any competent qb's that are out there are already starting for other teams or are their backups. None of the guys available are "better" than what we have. It would be the same results with a different face. If you're going to make a change it has to be for someone you "think" has a shot at being something worth investing in. To me it's just another waste of time and it will not change the fact that the team must draft a qb in the next draft.

I think he was regretting not hedging his bet on the qb position. But in fairness that may not have been an option for him this season. And to be honest there wasn't anyone out that was going to change that. They weren't going to draft another rookie while they are trying to salvage the one they have invested so much in. So in reality it was either Young turns it around or it's over for him. If things don't change immediately I think the entire qb room will get overhauled after the season is over. If Young is still here it will be as a backup solely based on his contract.

There's not a veteran out there that's going to help THIS TEAM win a game.

So far our 3rd string qb has outplayed Young. Let that soak in for a minute. Hell just throw him out there when Young eventually craps the bed again. We already know Dalton wasn't brought in to be a real backup but only a mentor for Young.

Ask me after the cfb season is over. I will have to watch more cfb now to see of some of these qb's have a chance in hell of making it in the nfl. So far none of them to me has screamed an nfl qb.

They never got the chance to go against starters in the preseason outside of joint practices. Just like the defense showed today, they can only compete against backups. What does that tell you about the state of this team?

"Not sure" would have been appropriate for last season. Today removed all doubt.

Bryce was going to be the starter this season because they are desperately trying to salvage their investment, at least for a little while longer. I think they will be forced to move on after today. But they have nobody to move on with. So whatever happens next is anyone's guess. There's nothing really they can do until the draft gets here. Anyone they throw out there now is just shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic. We are still FUBAR.

The defense had no excuse. They let NO score on 9 straight drives. If they hadn't put in the backups they would have scored on every drive. That's not due to short fields or being tired. That's because they sucked and couldn't stop the starting unit period.

Look at every position. There's plenty of suck to go around so unearth the ugly truth.

There's really no saving this offense this season. None of the qb's on this team can win a game with this defense. None of the qb's are good enough to win a shootout. I bet this defense finishes last in the league in every category and quite likely will set a record for most points surrendered. It's going to take some miraculous turnaround in play a schemes to avoid being the worst we've ever had for sure.

If he plays like he did today I'd say there's a good chance of it happening. But if the defense continues to play like a high-school squad it won't matter.

I think its going to take 1 or 2 more games like today before that happens. But it's inevitable it will happen. Probably should check with Vegas for the over/under on when that will be.

I saw it coming the second it was announced they traded up for the 1st overall pick. I sure as hell they don't do that this coming draft. Odds are the won't need to and they will certainly screw it up regardless so there's that.

It will be interesting to see how long Canales continues to let Young be the starter. If I were a betting man I would wager that it will take a couple of more games like today before they are forced to make that decision. But a decision will be made to move on if it hasn't been already.

I'm not sure that he was specifically brought in to fix Bryce. That was his freshest turd on a mountain of crap that he had to turn into a winning franchise sure. But I doubt his j9b hinges solely on whether he can "fix" Bryce Young. His job will depend on what he does from here on with the team.

I do not dispute that fact. But Dalton will not make a difference. The fact is this is a bad team with not enough talent or leadership to do nothing more than get embarrassed every Sunday until the season is over. I saw a team that was getting pushed around and took it. They were running around like they had lead shoes on and didn't know what they were doing. There's a lot of quit in this team. I saw a team still several years away from being competitive.

Exactly. Cannot have it both ways. The top 5 pick will be earned by losing a lot of games. It will be painful but fans should be used to that by now.

No downside other than they lose with Dalton also. They're going to lose regardless.

Nailed it

I watched every painful minute. I don't know why. The 1st quarter said it all.

If the fans think Dalton is going to change the teams fate for the season I'm afraid they will be disappointed. It was always going to be Bryce or bust this season. It's going to take an injury I'm afraid before there's a change at qb this season. If there is an in season change I say call the Plummer. He certainly cannot do any worse than Bryce and it would be more entertaining as we go win less this season.

The defense could not get 1 stop for the first 3 quarters. Not 1 stop. The gave up nearly 30 point in the 1st quarter. Blaming the offense for not scoring is justified but the defense not making 1 single stop in the 1st half is solely on THE DEFENSE. They weren't handicapped by the offense and blaming it on them is being blind to what is really going on.

It is impossible for the worst team in the league to tank. Tanking would imply that they are better but are just going through the motions to get the season over. Which they are already doing, going through the motions that is. This team will not win a game this season with how they played today.