Jon Snow

If you recall Frank was the last member of the council to give his vote. Everyone had made it known in one way or another who they preferred. Just something to ponder about the situation we find ourselves in.

Are we sure the owner didn't influence the GM to make those moves? The owner has his hands all over this. He also writes the checks and if you want to keep getting one I would say that you should probably listen. It's hard to separate one from the other at this point.

There's only so much a coach can do with a player. The product on the field reflects 80-90% the players talent and the rest is a result from coaching.

If he is it would be short-sighted. He didn't draft or sign the players he's coaching, just saying.

It seems he is currently on that limb all by himself. Whether he has company will be determined in the next 5 or 6 games me thinks.

The statement made by Frank at one of his first press conferences about his and Fitterer's roles was that Fitterer got the players and he decides who plays. Take that how you will. He followed with their standard " its a collaborative effort" bs. It's stuck with me from the time I heard it. This "collaborative" and "diversity of thought" talk seems to not be working so well.

I would put my money just the opposite right now. Frank will get this season baring being 0-10 in which case he's toast. Fitterer is front and center over the roster issues. That was made clear when Frank was hired.

They are definitely not helping matters. But they are only part of the problem. The roots run deeper and talent issues fall on the GM and his staff. The system falls on the coaches (who were hired by ?). The all star staff is looking to be part of the problem. Who chose who and who hired who is what I would like to know. I remember Frank admitting there had been some heated discussions among the coaches after the second loss. Something to monitor I suppose. Anyway, its a mess.

I cannot put my finger in it just yet. There's just so much FUBAR it's just so confusing to be able to make a decision on what to say. It's honestly the only reason I'm watching at this point. I'm baffled as to why it is so bad.

I'm having a hard time accepting the fact that this staff is all of a sudden incompetent. I'm not buying that ALL OF THEM has suddenly forgotten how to coach. Something isn't right and it's more than limited talent and bad coaching.

I don't know if you could have planned it to go any worse for this team than what is taking place right now. Literally everything that can go wrong has gone wrong. The odds of that are mind blowing. Something has to go right for once, it has to, the odds dictate it. I'm just as perplexed as anyone on here. There's some bad juju in the building I'm afraid.

Makes sense.

I have one foot out the door myself.

You were lied to.

I ain't even mad. I expected that they would lose early on. What I didn't expect was the team to look so bad. They play as if they never practice. This is some of the worst game planning and play calling I've seen this team make.

Oh it will be ugly. It will be out of reach by halftime.

This team is bad. Something is terribly wrong with this organization. There's no way this team should be this bad under these coaches.

Are you crazy? Murray is a certified bust.

He was a monster on the field. RIP big guy.

It's trending that way.

Frank will get at least 2 years to show he still has a brain in his head. He's not getting off to a promising start here that's for sure.

They've become used to the losing. They know nothing else.

It's too early for me to say that this is not going to work. I expected that it to be ugly for awhile with all the turnover and a patchwork of who's who staff. What I didn't expect was the play calling, or lack there of, to be this pathetic. I didn't expect to see the disarray on the sidelines from veteran nfl coaches. I'm beginning to think that there's not as much unity of thought in the building right now.