Jon Snow

It was Bryce or bust this season. Obviously they weren't taking the possibility of bust seriously enough.

Exactly! He's like, wtf man? Put the Plummer in to get beat up! Not me!

It still won't matter. But at least Andy will let it loose out there.

I bet Andy is saying, I didn't sign up for this, I'm just here for the laughs.

The tape don't lie.

I don't think they were in lock step at all. Frank just tried to go along to get along. Looking back on the situation Frank wanted a vet to start and they tried for Carr but Fitterer didn't really try to sign him because he was rookie all the way. Frank made it clear that Scott picked the players and he decides who starts. That's pretty clear to me the dynamics behind the scenes. So what Frank presented as his plan when he was hired went out the window rather quickly after he was hired.

I was thinking the same thing. I'm out of pie or I would pie this.

Has been for almost a decade now.

Reich wanted a vet qb. He wanted Carr and got Fitterered. Then he was forced to use Young and a mismatched cast of offensive coaches. He was toast as soon as he took the job. He was the wrong coach for developing a rookie qb and everyone knew it but Tepper and Fitterer. And they took the wrong rookie. It was doomed from the start.

This^^^

Amen!

Both equally bad but as others have said the cost to get Young out weights the cost of Clausen. Recency bias is a hell of a drug though so I will overlook that.

No, there's not.

We shall see.

He needs a new profession because this one is too big for him.

Maybe better than DC but not a sure thing either. Let's revisit the results at the end of the season.

I'm just following them out of habit now. I have no emotions in the game anymore. Stopped having that in 2016. It's only out of morbid curiosity that I still watch the games anymore. I now just want to see how bad it can actually get under this owner. Kinda like watching a train wreck that you just can't look away from. That's all I have left.

Well I didn't say there was better choices for Tepper. After all he created the situation.

When you suck 99% of the time you might as well call it 100%. There's really no difference.

He will not last long enough to learn on the job. And hiring someone to be head coach who has to learn to be an HC and OC with a terrible qb at the same time is not going to work out. This experiment will end like all the others mark my words.

He may keep him around but Canales is in over his head. It will not get better as the season goes on. It is about to get really ugly in the locker room.

Watched a lot of Panthers football have you? It's a valuable teaching tool of what not to do as a football team.

All I know is that the top qb as per the media is rarely ever the best of the bunch. It's usually the 2nd or 3rd ranked guy according to the "professionals" that will always make it in the league in some form or fashion. Not their anointed pick.

Agents pay media analysts to sell a client all the time. The same thing happens around draft time. See Young last year. Just look at the Sanders hype going on right now. I tried to watch the game but the slobbering over him made it impossible to watch. Wait until the offseason when Dion will be out there selling them both, and folks are already buying it. You cannot let the media tell you who's the best you must figure it out for yourself. Good luck!