Jon Snow

How are these guys ready to start today? Did they magically absorb every playbook in the nfl just by thinking about it? Did they magically build chemistry with every wr in the league before they are even drafted? Are they going to do that in just one trying camp? The answer to all of the above is no. This isn't fantasy man. If you are going to proclaim something at least make it realistic.

And they will develop more than one. They are not going to bet everything on just one guy.

Had Atlanta taking the same lineman a couple of weeks ago. These mocks are only for fantasy football nerds because they are NEVER accurate. I really cannot understand why anyone would take them seriously.

Add the cost in there and ask them the same question. Jokes on you.

You are in for a very disappointing season if you are expecting that this upcoming season. Even Cam Newton could not do that his first season. Ironically a practice squad/nfl Europe qb we signed did. But I digress. My point being we will not start a rookie before he's ready and there is not one in the draft ready to anyway. So a vet it is for the time being. You might as well accept it.

Well this thread has gone off the rails.

Interesting.

I was trying to be nice.

He can't even take the Ravens to the SB. Just stop before you say something stupid.

If we had a coach and a qb we beat the handily.

You guys just don't get it. Any choice they make on a qb is a swing and a risk for the staff. This is their first time together and it sets the groundwork for the direction going forward. The options and opportunities are not ideal but they have to adapt to the situation if they are to continue this mad experiment. Any choice they decide to go with in a rookie qb is a swing regardless of round. It's a greater risk for the coach and his reputation but not so much for the team other than a wasted opportunity unless that swing is all you'll have for awhile. Going with a vet is a risk and a swing as well because they would be giving it one last bid for the vet qb with a proven veteran staff to make a run while developing a replacement assuming they have one. It's a greater risk for the coach and possibly the team if the cost for the vet is crippling in the future. Any direction they end up going is one big swing at something that inevitably will not be good enough for the majority of this forum. It will be thoroughly entertaining.

I was calling him out for being afraid of Lamar going to Atlanta. He thinks we should sign him because they want Lamar and will crush us with him.

If you're scared mf go to church.

The market is what a team is willing to pay for that specific player. It doesn't mean that every FA qb that comes after is worth that much. They may think they are as Lamar is about to find out but that doesn't mean every team out there is lining up to give him that and more.

I'm mystified that you think that any of us have any influence on what the team does at qb. And please point out this franchise qb to our front office and spare the rest of us the misery of going through another decade of looking for one. I'm sure David Tepper would happily reward you for that bit of prophecy.

I'm sure they will at some point if they are interested. Most of the staff are still moving into their offices. Their first full staff meeting hasn't happened yet. Whatever they have planned for FA will be decided after our current players are evaluated which just started. Even if they were interested Carr is in no rush to sign with anyone so who do we have to be in a rush to show interest? If we really want him we will sign him.

He's going to let the market set his contract worth. He may very well get 40+ mil per season somewhere. I'm just not sure we are one of those teams.

Carr decides who he wants to visit. Besides, we are not going to lift our skirt for the first sailor to walk by. He's got to learn what he's worth around the league before he gets serious with anyone. Like I said, his asking price will determine how interested we are.

This thought has been lurking in the back of my mind ever since he became available. Its like a itch that won't go away. I hope I'm wrong.

I agree. I also think that this group doesn't feel they have to get the #1 pick at all costs in order to succeed.

Here's what I think. I think if Carr visits the Panthers he will end up with the Panthers after he evaluates his options. Of the 3 FA qb's worth considering Carr to the Panthers makes too much sense. The contract however will be the deciding factor. I just have this feeling he a Frank will hit it off.

Of course it's a better collection of minds to evaluate this class. That still doesn't mean the guy will live up to his potential. It's always a gamble with these rookies. I have more confidence now that we have a good enough staff to identify serviceable qb at the very least.

Based on what exactly?

Of course, if they get it right.