Jon Snow

By all means put me on ignore or block or whatever makes you feel better. If my comment offended you then so be it.

It's not odd. That fact you are placing judgment on how good they are or will be on a few drills is what's odd. And that fact that I mentioned it upset you two is what's odd.

Not very much. That's about as nice as I can put it.

Again, why is your business?

Why is it any of your business?

You guys have not learned a damn thing about the combine. Winning a drill does not mean squat.

The tuff has been terrible throughout the drills.

I think only 3 or 4 ran the 40. None of the perceived top 4 ran.

So far the DB group is faster than most of the WR's running today.

This guy is a mountain of man. He's pretty good too.

Sorry to here that brother. I'm happy to hear you are getting back to some normalcy. You have not missed anything around here. It's the same sh!t posting as it's always been. Glad to see you back because we need more level heads and quality opinions around the place.

That was all I'm saying. He's raw, very raw.

I do not consider that comparable. The results were not even close. Not saying switching the teams may have resulted in the same outcome but you cannot use hypothetical projections. He is much future behind in his development and just because he resembles Cam Newton does not mean he will even sniff Cam 2.0 if that's the thinking.

In those 3 years he's only started 13 games. He was also a redshirt sophomore coming into the draft. He is raw as raw can get for an nfl prospect. Think about that before you invest serious capital and put your employment on the line.

He may be in the mix. I'm going on the assumption they are drafting one as every indication I've seen says they are. I suppose it's in the realm of possibilities that they do forgo drafting one from this class. It certainly could be all a smokescreen.

I'm guessing the staff is thinking the same thing.

He probably hasn't taken a poop in several days either.

What I think ultimately happens is that they will try to trade down a few spots to pick up some extra picks if they sign Carr. They will draft a TE or WR and a developmental qb to sit behind Carr to develop. The order of those selections will depend on how the qb's come off the board.

It appears to me we have more needs than our current amount of draft picks can provide. Unless they nail every single one of any they have left after trading up.

Welcome back brother! Long time no see.

Its misinformation season so it's hard to get a feel for where they will go with this thing. To pull off what Fitterer has said they want to do it appears to me they need more 1st and 2nd round picks. He's repeatedly said they wants playmakers at QB, TE and WR at least. So to me that would getting at least two of those 2 in the first and getting lucky with a 2nd round pick. Someone explain to me how they do that if they trade up and only end up with 1 1st and if their lucky 1 2nd round pick?

Mods should pin this.

Mooch went over some of his game tape and asked him to critique his own flaws. Footwork is an issue when he is under pressure. He has a lot of flaws in his game that will get exposed at this level. I'm not sure all of them can be coached out of him without effecting his timing. He's a huge gamble in the top 10.

The only thing the worries me about Stroud is the ability to transition based in how there developed at OSU. I know no one wants to hear this but OSU is notorious for running and teaching a specific system that doesn't help the guys transition into the nfl and become successful. I heard that mentioned yesterday on that network. I wish I could remember who it was that said it now. But it is a real issue that goes unmentioned outside of the scouting world.