JawnyBlaze

Imagine good coaches, Cam, our current OL and healthy CMC and DJ

2015 was the most fun I’ve ever had as a fan of sports. Moreso even than the Jordan era when I was a Bulls fan (Jordan fan) or any other team I’ve followed. But that coach and his staff completely f’d an incredible team and are 1000% the reason we weren’t 19-0 that year. I don’t want a coach that coaches like any of the old Panthers teams because we’ve pretty much always been coached by buffoons. Minus the early Fox years maybe.

That’s why I don’t want Wilks for next year. We don’t need to be the old Panthers, they never won a Super Bowl. We need a coach like we’ve never had before. A winner.

Yea I was joking. Allen was my favorite in his draft too, I just trust my own eyes and still prefer Stroud

Oof. Makes me rethink my desire for Stroud if Kiper likes him…

Oh absolutely, Robbie was a worse value than Kirk or any of these other new contracts, but it was also a lower investment. Kirk to me was worse because it was a bigger commitment.

Burns isn’t a liability against the run at all. He’s actually quite good against the run despite the rhetoric parroted on here. 30-45 is an extreme exaggeration, and the first rounders in question are 2 and 3 years down the road. If we had gotten offered two real first round picks (this year) then the deal probably would have had a chance. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush though, we couldn’t necessarily replace either with a first because that first could easily be a bust whereas Burns is a proven young commodity.

Sack numbers aren’t everything though. Reddick is only comparable to Burns in that one category, plus Burns is younger. Reddick will need to be replaced again in a couple years probably while Burns will be locked up and productive for longer. Just my opinion, and I liked Reddick, but he had less of an impact despite having a couple more sacks.

I’d expect Burns to get closer to $25-27mil rather than 30 if we extend him sooner rather than later. If we wait for more DE contracts to get done it may go up, the tide is always rising. I keep going back to the Kirk deal because it’s still ludicrous even though it’s less than I remembered. $18+mil a year for another 900 yd 8 td season

Yea I was agreeing with that. Hill is worth more than Burns. Not Kirk.

Yea looks like my memory was just off. Kirk got 4 years up to $84mil, Adams got 5 years 141.25mil and Hill got 4 years 120. Point holds though. If Kirk got $21mil a year, a top DE contract should blow a mid tier WR’s contract out of the water. Hill is more of a game changer, sure, but WR isn’t a more important position than DE and Burns is going to get upper tier DE money.

I dunno if my memory is just off but I remember Hill getting $35mil a year and Kirk getting $30, and Adam’s getting just under Hill

Kirk got $30 a year I thought. That’s what I heard at the time and blew my mind

Christian Kirk is making more than that top DE money. Let that sink in lol

$24mil a year for a DE doesn’t seem that extravagant when we got WRs making $35mil a year. Burns is easily worth more than that, and he’ll get it if Chubb got 24. Burns is better by a fair bit.

Looked at some Dugan video. He seems interesting. Really quick to run and I didn’t see a whole lot of going through progressions but throws a nice ball. Will wait for more video toward the end of the season. Who really impressed me was Quinten Johnson. By far the best looking WR I’ve seen so far this year, easily better than Marvin Harrison Jr. Looks like Atlanta Julio Jones. Not even Alabama Julio, but Julio 2.0.

We drafted one of Cam’s receivers (and his LT). Neither lasted long. I’ll look at Dugan but I imagine if he was as good as Stroud or Young I’d have heard more about him.

If you need a QB you do whatever you can to find that QB. Doesn’t matter if you pick #1 and it’s just identifying the right one, or picking #10 and determining whether you need to trade up after identifying the right one and then negotiating that trade. It’s a difficult job, which is why none of us have it.

Drafting DJ over Ridley has always been the right choice.

Yea, last year’s class was bad, I didn’t really like any of them in the 1st. I was good with Corral or Howell in the mid rounds. And the year before, I’m glad we didn’t fall for the Fields trap, the only QBs I liked there were Lawrence and Wilson. Time will tell for them but they went to historically bad teams, especially for QBs. This year however, we need to get our QB. Not next year, not years down the road. This year.

The point is we need to go ahead and be prepared to take one instead of kicking the can down the road because “next year’s QBs are better”. They’re saying we need to draft one.

For sure. Which is why we shouldn’t trade him.

Goodness if Chubb is worth “at least” a current first, Burns is worth more than that. Significantly more than a couple firsts a few years down the road.

That’s just more baseless Huddle rhetoric. Gets repeated enough that people start taking it as true without an ounce of thought. Same as the drivel about him being bad against the run.