JawnyBlaze

The worst possible scenario is we win a few more games this year, miss out on our choice of QB and Wilks is given credit for turning the team around and given the full time job then turns out to be another Rivera. A mediocre coach that will either be terrible without an elite QB or will hold an elite QB and team back from going all the way. I like Wilks but even if we win half of our games left this year that doesn’t automatically mean he’s a good coach all of a sudden. So if I had to choose, it’s “tank” so our future has more potential than PJ Walker and Wilks.

It’s absolutely lazy. There’s not much similar between Fields and Stroud other than where they attend/ed the same college. Comparing them is lazy. Just looking at numbers is lazy. If you watch them play it’s pretty readily apparent their games aren’t similar at all. Fields was a strong arm, one read, athletic QB. He could still be good in the NFL, but he has a lot more to learn than Stroud will. Stroud had a strong enough arm, probably less strong than Fields, but great accuracy and touch and he throws well on the run to either direction too. Stroud makes full field reads, goes through all his progressions when needed. He also processes quicker (I won’t call him elite at processing speed, but very good and better than most QBs I’ve seen come out the past few years). He’s shifty in the pocket but not a runner like Fields. They’re totally different QBs. Besides, the talent around his this year doesn’t seem leaps and bounds above the other teams like last year and past years. Harrison Jr and Smith-something are solid but don’t scream high picks to me like Olave and Wilson, their RB seems ok and their OL seems below average. They were ***** up all over the place vs Iowa. When I watched Fields videos a couple years ago I kept coming away from videos saying “man, that Olave kid looks really good”, not “Fields looks really good.” And I don’t follow college football beyond scouting potential Panthers, so I didn’t know anything about Olave at all before watching Fields videos. I watch Stroud videos and over and over it’s “man he put that right on the money for his WR to make a play”.

Yea Fields was better at running, Stroud is quick within the pocket and good at evading the rush but he’s not going to get many rushing yards. Fields was much better at that

There’s no comparison with Fields beyond the same school. Stroud throws a better ball and Fields was a one read QB. Stroud is the total package.

Nah, many (me included) said Fields was a product of the system and didn’t make reads much in college which wouldn’t translate. He also didn’t throw as well or accurate as Stroud. Many didn’t want us to draft Fields, it’s just the ones that did got loud about it especially once Baker didn’t work out.

Stroud Young Corral Levis Hooker

The offensive line, which is what this thread is about, has been good all year.

“Burns is similar to Ramsey and Fitzpatrick, and he’s only 24. Good luck getting him.” Some people around here need to pay attention to that last line. Burns is a great player who’s going to be expensive when the time comes and he’s worth it. You don’t trade away premier pass rushers who don’t want to go anywhere.

If we win a playoff game? Sure, give him a consideration. Six or seven more wins? Nah, for that I’d rather get an offensive minded HC, higher potential. Six or seven more wins with this team would be an accomplishment no doubt, but not impressive enough to make me believe he could turn the team into a consistent winner. Worst thing that could happen is we get a franchise QB in the draft and hire a Rivera-like HC that handicaps the potential of the team.

I wouldn’t give a third for Mac Jones

Burns, Brown and Icky look like strong candidates with the only thing maybe holding them back being the good team bias. Horn and Hekker are also decent bets. Possibly Woods

Yep, if that’s what it takes. Good edge rushers don’t grow on trees. We let him walk who knows when we’ll get another one. We won’t reproduce his production in FA for cheaper unless we get super lucky and find someone who was just “misused” on their previous team or strike gold on a draft selection. The good DEs tend to go really high.

Good enough to give up the fewest pressures in the league

As the next top tier DE to get a deal, that’s how it works. He’ll be the highest paid edge til the next one gets a new deal

Oh yea let him finish. The nah was about him maybe being better

If anyone says they don’t want a QB because of where he goes to college and that college hasn’t produced any good QBs, everything else they say is utterly invalidated

He played well. Also threw some really off target passes. He is who he is and he played to the high mark of his abilities today. He was efficient overall and can’t ask much more of him than that. Doesn’t change that we need to spend our top pick on a QB though heh

Yea I agree with you but he had a few other good plays too. I don’t all of a sudden think he’s great or anything but he had a really good game.

Even Marshall actually looked decent today. A tough drop early but had some clutch catches later.

Yea we weren’t likely to lose ALL the rest of the games. This is a good one to spend one of our wins on.

They dropped a couple, no more than we did. Just one of theirs happened to be glaring. I saw that one as karma though, Evans knocked his defender to the ground midway through the route, looked like OPI. Defender didn’t just fall over, Evans shoved him.

Lotta people around here got proven wrong today. DJ balled out making people questioning his heart look foolish, Burns was all over the place (can’t stop the run HAH), Brown was the primary force keeping their run game stuffed, Foreman and Hubbard ran like their hair was on fire (making me look foolish for my comments about us obviously needing to spend a mid pick on a RB), OL did great against one of the best DL in the league. Even PJ played really efficient. Still had some terribly off target throws but very positive overall. Lotta heart on this team.