JawnyBlaze

Well I hope Joe Person finally makes some poo stick to the wall in this case

I was onboard with the op til it started stumping for Mac Jones.

You lost any semblance of credibility when you said fuller and cooks are better than anything we have.

Holy poo I’m glad we didn’t try to outbid THAT

Where did it say anything about confirmed? “Per league sources” never screams confirmed to me. And anything from Joe Person is more like “confirmed to be the opposite.” Stafford would be great here but I just don’t want to give up a 1st or any legit young talent. He looked weathered this year and I’m not confident he’d be a 5+ year answer. If he would be, then absolutely. This “we’re multiple years away from contending” nonsense is tired groupthink. We get a great or better QB and we’re in the hunt this year. Tag or sign Moton and whatever other scrubs we replenish the OL with makes it better than ‘15 when we dominated the regular season and playoffs until we ran into the buzzsaw of the refs and Shula’s incompetence finally catching up to us. Our offensive skill players are infinitely better than that year. Our defense is worse but not by as much as I think most believe. They’re so young and we’re getting better and better. I think they’ll be a solid 10-15 in the rankings, maybe even higher. There’s no reason we can’t be legitimate a threat next year with Stafford or Watson. If 5/8 of our 1 score losses were flipped to wins this year we probably would have been in the playoffs. And the leap from Bridgewater to Stafford/Watson is ginormous, I definitey think we would have had 10+ wins this year even without CMC. Next year we’ll have CMC and a more experienced young defense. If we draft a QB, I think we’re maybe another year or two away from being legit but it’ll be a more long term situation.

Should have just let Cam play out his contract. He looked bad on a team with the worst roster in the NFL (at least definitely offensively) but he probably would have been better here. Better than Teddy at the very least but that is a comically low bar. Doesn’t matter if he wanted a new deal, I guarantee he wouldn’t hold out or be disruptive over it, that’s never been who he’s shown himself to be. And even if moving on from him was unavoidable (it wasn’t) then signing Bridgewater (who MANY of us said was a terrible move from the start) made the situation even worse.

Three firsts and this year’s second? Tough pill to swallow but if it means a long term franchise QB, you do what you gotta

And we also keep Moton. Tag or long term deal

We trade the next three firsts for Watson and there’s this little thing called the rest of the draft where we can invest heavily on the OL.

Teddy isn’t getting better. Many of us called this as soon as he signed. He’s not a second year player. He is who he is. He is an acceptable backup, very far from a starter. Even without CMC last year he had more weapons than most QBs are afforded.

Oof not for our first no thank you. Maybe our second.

OL or CB. Absolutely nothing else. We sure af don’t need another first round non-pass rushing LB or offensive skill position even if we lose Curtis. But the only real answer is QB. I can’t watch more than another couple games of Bridgewater.

This whole idea that we’d HAVE to send one of our good young players is absolute speculation and grounded in nothing, but if for some reason it works out that way, it’d be Moore imo. Anderson, Samuel and find a WR in the 2nd or 3rd to replace Moore. That that we’d necessarily find someone as good, but it’s possible. Been a lotta really good WRs coming out of the 2nd round and later lately. Moore would be the easiest to replace

CMC, second place is DJ, third is Burns

If Wilson is gone, I absolutely would like Stafford. He can be what Teddy was thought (by some) to be. A good bridge QB that can get us by until we can get a good rookie QB. Would probably mean we’d either have to get lucky in the latter part of the first on a QB or trade up, but we’d have options without having to endure torturous, embarrassing seasons like this year until we find him. Do I think Stafford can carry the team in his back to a Super Bowl? Probably not. Can Stafford be a contributing piece to a Super Bowl caliber team? Absolutely.

Nah to any of those imo. All are light years ahead of Bridgewater but still not what I would want to build around

He may very well command three firsts. And I’d be tempted to pay it. Or he might go for a first and a good not great player. No one knows at this point. There are often crazy unpredictable trades

For every example of someone overpaying in a trade as listed above (especially leremy tunsil and Ramsey), there’s crazy under paying for Hopkins, Moss, and others. The only real evidence we have is that disgruntled players usually trade for less than players on teams rebuilding and trying to shed contracts like tunsil and Ramsey

If we have Wilson or Lance waiting to take over week 2? A -0 for that game, 10 moving forward. If we haven’t drafted his replacement? Negative infinity.

CMC is great, love him. But if we gotta lose him to finally reacquire a stud franchise QB then so be it. We don’t “have no o-line”. We have a decent backup RB. We can find another RB in the draft easier than a QB. All things considered, the leap from Bridgewater to Watson is infinitely greater than from Davis to CMC. So I hope we don’t lose CMC, but I’m willing to for Watson.

A sure thing vs a gamble? Hell yes.

I agree that Hurney 2.0 was better than 1.0 on paper. We got some solid FAs and made some solid draft choices. Our last draft might have been our best ever. But a lot of that I put on Rhule, all out acquisitions last year...good and bad. The second paragraph I couldn’t disagree with more. CBs are absolutely vital in today’s game. Far far moreso than LBs. Paying Shaq like a top tier LB was a mistake only slightly less ludicrous than paying Delhomme his last contract. We could have replaced Shaq with a 4th round LB or just signed a mediocre one in FA and got the same performance. Letting Bradberry walk was almost as stupid as not tagging Norman. Hopefully Fitterer and Rhule value the back end like the Seahawks did and not like our previous regimes.

This would be ideal. All comes down to whether the Jets draft a QB or if a team trades up for one.

Hurney getting a job is simultaneously mind blowing and yet entirely expected that WFT hired him. It’s hilarious how we have two Carolina North’s now, far north of us the Bills poached our good coach and GM candidate and close north of us Washington took our castoffs.