JawnyBlaze

Agree with OP. But last year was the most miserable Panthers season for me ever. Worse than ‘10. Worse than ‘01. Even though this year’s team was better, it was miserable going out there watching Teddy bumble away what could have been a decent year. I was much less down on this team than most, and the fact we were able to win 5 games with Teddy as our QB proves why. With a decent QB last year would have been around 9 wins. Maybe even one or two more. Teddy shat away 8 possible wins. And that’s why it was more miserable to me. At least those other two years it was a matter of overall talent and coaching deficiency. No matter who we get at QB this year, whether a rookie or Watson or someone out of left field like Dak, and no matter if we go 2-14 or something like that, it will be less miserable than this past year.

Our Oline was decent last year. With the picks we save this way we can treat the oline like we treated the defense in the draft last year. Resign, or at least tag, Moton, draft LT with our first pick (hell, if someone we like is still there in the mid to late first I wouldn’t mind trading next years first to trade back into the first). Then the next few picks get spent on the interior oline. With that strategy we could be even better than last year on the oline

That’s pretty much where I’m at with this too. I don’t like him, but having good QB play again is far more important and at a less crippling cost, we could be competitive right away

Funniest thing I’ve seen all day

If we had a QB that didn’t forget DJ exists half the time, there would be no discussion about Samuel being better. I love Curtis and hope we can keep him for around $10mil or less, but DJ is better all around. I’m super glad we have Anderson but if we have to pick two of our top three, he’s the odd man out.

I like Wilson a lot, the next QB on the list isn’t even close to him....but Lawrence is above him.

Also, the way I saw it, Rivera and Fox were basically the same coach except all of Fox’s flaws were more exaggerated in Rivera. The stubbornness and unwillingness to adapt especially.

Rivera had a transcendent QB. Fox had Jake. I do agree W-L is more on the coach than any other individual involved in a team (I despise attributing wins to QBs) but in this case Rivera had a cheat code.

And Fox is better.

Easy choice, top.

You’re not wrong. But there has to be some line. I’d probably be better with giving four 1sts than three and cmc

Or at least not count plays where the pass goes 5 yards and DJ Moore takes it 50.

I’m swinging for the fences here: he was more frustrating to watch than Ron Rivera’s coaching.

Bridgewater was more frustrating to watch than Byron Bell playing LT and Haruki Nakamura playing S combined. Worse than 2009 Jake. Worse than Lagadu Naane.

I said it before, I wouldn’t call him the worst QB we’ve ever had but he’s my least favorite. Watching him aggravated me more than any other player ever.

Yea, air yards was separated out into “even more passing stats”

It seems they are judging off passing plays that went for big yards, not deep passes

Throw in Shaq and I could get behind that deal.

A) CMC isn’t just a rb B) there’s no way of knowing if this year was going to be the new norm for him. We paid him early precisely so by the end of his second contract would be when he carries start catching up with him, not at the beginning of his second contract. And if we had waited and gave him a second contract a year or two later it would have been even bigger due to contract inflation C) I’m not completely against trading CMC, but not along with three 1sts. If we were to trade CMC for picks we’d easily get more than a 1st. Maybe two. Four or five firsts value is a bit too much. I’m all for going big for Watson but not THAT gd big

In what world is losing the best offensive weapon in the league a favor?

Tapped the link just out of curiousity why it would have “come out” in tb, glad I did so I could pie the post. Good on you @Verge

Hah I never venture into the TB. I can’t stand enough people already without knowing which ones are unrepentant bigoted racists and other nonsense

My bad. Unless they have some specification in their name like ladypanther or mr scot I have no idea what people around here are heh

Verge’s info is usually good. His record is good enough for me to believe that when it isn’t good it’s not on him but on his source.

Three 1sts and CMC is too much, imo. Three 1sts? Ok. Two 1sts and two defensive starters like Shaq and Boston? Ok. A 1st, a 2nd and CMC? I think I’d be ok with that.