JawnyBlaze

Pretty optimistic. The overall FA moves have been quite good, we haven’t backed up the money truck to anyone and even if some of them end up getting injured, it was worth taking a shot. The QB situation is already an upgrade and if Darnold can be fixed then even better. If not, we still have draft options available for QBs. If Fields or Lance is there at 8, we take him and play it like Mahommes, Jackson and a lot of highly draft QBs letting them sit behind a placeholder. And in that scenario Darnold is still a cheap placeholder that relieves us of having to play Bridgewater.

That’s exactly how it’s being view by anyone with half a ***** brain

There is no “essentially”. A pick between 33 and 64 is a second round pick, end of story. A 2022 second round pick in 2021 is valued as a third round pick. It’s not essentially this or that. It is what it is and its value is what its value is.

Probably not with all the FAs we’re signing

We have an Aaron Rodgers?! Damn, that future 2nd round pick ain’t looking so steep anymore after all!

If you want to call it a smoke screen, it’s a smoke screen that actually has a fire behind it since I said it’s also hedging our bets in case a top four doesn’t fall to us. I don’t think they’d trade for him if they didn’t feel confident they could fix him

And if we do end up taking Fields or Lance, Darnold is also a cheap placeholder til the rookie is ready, sparing us having to suffer through Teddy during that adjustment period.

I think it’s entirely possible that in addition to hedging our bets with Darnold in case a top four QB doesn’t drop to us, it could also have been a strategy to make teams behind us think we’re not going to draft a QB and therefore have no reason to trade ahead of us. Fitterer’s comment about changing nothing on our board might be next level gamesmanship, causing teams behind us to think that if that’s what Fitterer is saying publicly then his real plan is not to get a QB, making it more likely a QB falls to us. if that’s the case, then it was a cheap price to pay to increase the likelihood our guy falls to us. If not, it was a cheap price to pay to take a chance on a guy that’s never been put in a situation to succeed and then surround him with talent.

All three would have failed miserably. More miserably than Darnold? The world will never know.

Teddy was a disaster from the start. He was never going to be better than the milquetoast QB he always has been. Darnold has upside. I think this was a good, not great trade. Low cost, high reward.

Absolutely not. Teddy was a disaster of a decision. Darnold is a low cost calculated risk based on the unlikelihood we’re able to get a better QB in the draft. Even if Darnold fails it wasn’t a bad decision at the time.

I read that we are picking up his option. And a second and fourth in the future is a third and fifth in the now. Not that valuable.

According to Schefter that’s exactly where it started, a fourth. And ended up at a 6th and a couple future picks.

interesting watch

I think we net nothing because we’ll cut him and who cares where he’ll go because he won’t be our problem any more.

What demonstrations? The Matt Stafford attempt? Not a bad idea. Being “within striking distance” of a rookie? If you mean Mac Jones (bleh) or Trask or someone then sure maybe. I’d rather have Darnold. The good four were going to be gone anyway since Jacksonville and the Jets are taking QBs themselves, I don’t believe SF is going to take Jones, that would be almost as bad as signing Teddy Bridgewater to be your starter. Atlanta is talking about trading back but it ain’t going to be with us. So that’s 1-4. I don’t want a QB that’s not one of those four. One of us is being willfully stupid, and it ain’t me. Only one of us is claiming a 23 year old QB who’s only played for the Jets could already be a verified bust.

If you think a sixth and a future second and fourth is a haul, then there really is no reasoning with you.

A lot of us actually did. I’m mildly optimistic about Darnold though.

And the draft hasn’t happened yet...and it was looking like there weren’t going to be any in striking distance. If they actually are when the draft happens, nothing is stopping us from taking one. Better to have one too many QBs than one too few.

I wouldn’t go that far lol. But I am pleased with this trade.

Who did they bypass? The only option that’s bypassed at this point is deshaun watson

Nobody’s career is staked on this. They didn’t spend much on a guy with high potential. His price tag was low enough that if the guy they actually wanted surprises them and is available in the draft they could still take him. A future second and some filler picks for a rental QB while the rookie sits and learns isn’t a bad model to follow. If the guy they wanted isn’t available, at least we’re not stuck with Teddy.

I’m going with neither. Was looking more and more like QB wasn’t in the cards for us this draft. The four good ones are likely to be gone. The small price tag is worth the potential we’re getting in Darnold and if he ends up still sucking, hopefully we’ll be in position to get Howell or another top QB prospect next year.

If by lateral you mean huge improvement. At his worst Darnold is better than Teddy. And one of them looked ok on a stacked team, the other has looked a little less than ok on one of the worst teams of the past three decades.

Lol at whining about next year’s second. I’m not real big on Darnold but he’s young and no one succeeds on the Jets. If he’s good, then it’s a steal, if he’s bad then at least he’s still better than Bridgewater. And we didn’t give up much for him. Next year’s second ain’t that valuable