JawnyBlaze

We can lose this game and not score another point and it’s still undeniable the problem was Bryce.

4 point swing on that bad spot

Good drive even though it ended up in a punt. Being able to move the ball not only let the defense rest but also led to pinning the Raiders inside the five. Just better football all around, simply because of benching the trash QB

As soon as we get a QB up to speed. Offense is ready. Defense is better than they look, but still needs a couple spots. We could get the defense spots as soon as next year, the QB might take a year or two to get up to speed but maybe we get a Stroud who comes in ready. The Texans were abysmal before getting Stroud and then in the playoffs in year one. No team ever has to be 4-5 years in today’s league.

lol. Anything for the clicks, keep pushing the baseless rhetoric and irrational hatred because it’s the easy way.

Getting the guards was a great move because no matter who the QB is it whether he can play we needed to solidify the OL. He did that. Dionte was a GREAT trade. If we get him a QB who can throw him the ball he will be a solid #1. Not a superstar, but probably on the same level as DJ was. Better route runner and hands, less explosive and yac. We knew Brooks wasn’t going to play the first few games. He might not be impactful this whole year but who cares. If he’s as good as the pre draft stuff all said he is, we’re good at RB for a while. Chuba is solid but not a bell cow. The pass rusher situation just is what it is, can’t fix everything. He focused on improving the offense this year and did great at putting everything around a QB he should need to succeed. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work when the QB is the entire problem with the offense. and that offensive ineptitude trickles down to wearing out the defense because they have to go back out on the field so quickly every time. Morgan might end up being trash like Fitterer and the last few GMs we’ve had, but it’s too early to tell. I’m pleased with what I’ve seen so far, doing what he can to make the team ready for when we can correct Fitterer’s mistake of taking Bryce.

You say that now, but at the time the VAST majority of this board and the media was strongly for us drafting Bryce. There weren’t many of us advocating for Stroud.

Depends on all the relevant factors. Where we end up picking, what this year’s QBs look like. Still a lot of football to be played to determine these things.

From what I read at the time it was because they didn’t want Eli and Peyton both in the AFC competing against each other.

Cam would have killed for this OL and weapons group post 2013. Sure, he had Smitty and Olsen at first and a solid OL that year, but once Gross was gone his line was always significantly worse than our OL this year and once Smitty was gone his weapons were significantly worse. Yea last year the line and weapons weren’t good but they weren’t as bad as Bryce made them look.

I mean, no one is expecting we’ll become unbeatable but defense doesn’t work in a vacuum either. They’ll be better just by not having to run back onto the field every 30 seconds because Bryce can’t sustain a drive.

Very diplomatic way to say it’s all Bryce’s fault.

I do think Reich would still be here and I agree we probably would have been in the 6-8 win range, our OL was below average (Bryce made them look even worse though) and our WRs were below average (Bryce made them look even worse though) but Stroud would have been able to work with that. With this year’s OL and weapons? We’d be averaging 25-28 pts a game. Defense would look better cuz they wouldn’t be on the field so much with such short fields for the opponents. I think we may have still lost to the Saints (they’re looking pretty damn strong) but it would have been close and I think we would have beaten the Chargers.

Yea you were definitely the most outspoken anti-Bryce person here. I was extremely pro-Stroud moreso than anti-Bryce. I thought Bryce would be decent but nowhere near as good as Stroud who I knew was gonna be a star.

Trading up wasn’t dumb. Taking Bryce was dumb. If we had taken Stroud it would have been the best trade in franchise history.

I blame 100% on Bryce. He would have been a bust if he went to the Chiefs.

There is absolutely no chance Bryce is on the team next year, much less stopping us from drafting a QB no matter where we end up picking (which will surely be top 3 at worst).

I said it all that offseason, Stroud throws the best ball and is the most accurate I might have ever seen in college. And unlike Bryce, his attributes translate to the NFL.

Ok, he just all of a sudden became the most inaccurate QB ever. Whatever you say buddy.

That’s just how it goes. Happens all the time, week to week adjustments in the season don’t catch up like an entire offseason to study does.

Or if Canales knows he has security and is aiming for that #1 pick. I think he should bench him too, because of the effect Bryce had to have on the rest of the team, but it would be detrimental to the future of the team for Dalton to go in and win us 6 or 7 games where we have to trade up again to get our pick of QBs. Fitterer is gone, so for now I’d have more confidence this time around.

I think it’s the old “teams have tape on him now” effect. Last year other teams probably still bought into the college hype that fooled Fitterer and played him with more respect and gave up some stuff. This year they see that he’s not an NFL qb and can scheme their defense accordingly.

There was a random graphic that was floating around last year with some cherry picked stats and situations that tried to spin Bryce as accurate when receivers were “open”. It was bs then, it’s bs now

No, he really wasn’t. No matter what some stupid cherry picked graphic would lead you to believe. His accuracy was atrocious last year too.