JawnyBlaze

CMC is better than Faulk, Faulk said so himself. Put CMC on those teams back then and his records would never be broken.

Foreman isn’t going to be our starter next year hopefully. Worst case scenario we sign some mid tier guy for cheap like Josh Jacobs but I prefer we draft a stud in the mid rounds, like with the 49ers 2nd or something.

Bye Shaq. Last move we’ll make like that

First round is high to me. I wouldn’t want to spend 33 either probably, unless it’s a really great one. But mid second isn’t a high investment. I’d rather spend the 49ers second on a top tier RB than a third on an average mid tier. If there isn’t a top tier one in the mid to low second, then get an average one in the fourth or so.

Nah, no more high picks on RBs but I’d definitely spend a second or later if a good one is available.

Barkley is currently on a team with a winning record. And again, I’m not saying you need a first round RB, just saying the line that’s been floated many times about teams with first round RBs don’t win is provably false. Doesn’t matter if they’re not even the best RB on their team.

3-3. Division placement isn’t “winning”. Winning is winning.

And for the record I definitely don’t want to spend a first on a RB, even if we had a lower first. But if there’s a stud in the second, then absolutely.

Colts, ravens, niners and falcons are winning? And I never said you need one to win, I was arguing against the idea that teams that win don’t have first round RBs. I showed that there are teams that are indeed winning with first round RBs. Of course you can win without one, there’s plenty of teams winning by your definition without a first round QB, doesn’t mean it isn’t better to have one. Talk about a stupid take.

Yea I almost didn’t think to include the Chiefs, but they qualify and it helps my point so I did, lol

Wut? Why in the fug would we trade Chinn? This is just pure foolishness.

Yea I agree. But the Giants, Cowboys and Chiefs are all winning right now with first round RBs. No single position is REQUIRED to win except QB, but the more weapons you give your QB the better he’ll look.

Yea all the guys mentioned so far are JAGs at best, some are trash. We’re not going to get an equal to CMC, that player doesn’t exist, but we should be able to get a GOOD dependable guy in the second or third. I’d love to luck into a Lesean McCoy or … name escapes me but that guy from the Bears whose RB receptions record CMC broke. Both were second round guys.

I’ve watched a bunch of Stroud videos including all three of JT OSullivan’s QB School videos and the only passes I saw float were the ones that were intended to float to drop in over a defenders head. He doesn’t just throw to wide open receivers, he makes throws in tight windows, with great touch over defenders’ heads, zips passes in on crossing routes and comebacks with great anticipation. He makes all the throws and looks the furtherest thing from a system QB that OSU or most any school has produced. I’ve also watched pretty much every video for Young, Levis and Hooker. They have legit concerns, more real than just “his school hasn’t produced good QBs in the past”.

I get that, but I don’t think we were at much risk of winning more games even with him and he would have been nice to have for next year’s new staff.

Yea if we can get a really good one in the second then absolutely. Foreman is meh, not a starter and Chuba is trash. Also depends on the coach and OC we get. If it’s one of these guys that can squeeze yards out of mediocre backs like New Orleans did for so many years before Kamara because of the scheme then just pick one in the third or later that fits the physical traits that system needs.

The offense didn’t work because of the guys on the sidelines, not the guys on the field.

He has been on the field. You might have noticed him in our last game accounting for 75% of our total offense.

I agree with everything you said. Levis doesn’t look bad, just nothing I saw really impressed me. I’m much more interested in what I see during game time than measurables. Young reminds me of Watson, good and bad (on the field). From what I’ve seen of Hooker he is the epitome of one read and run QB. No thanks. I watched a couple games worth of videos and never saw a single second read. Helluva athlete though. Stroud just looks like the total package, but he also had a superior system and weapons so I try to filter that out and focus on his decision making, throws (placement, touch, anticipation), and things that are independent from those. With most guys you’ll either have the “he’s got superior weapons” argument or “he hasn’t played anybody/cupcake division” argument because of a team is going against top tier teams then they’re going to be a top tier team too, weapons, system and all.

He had two different injuries two years. You’re making it sound like he was out for four years. It was two, and this year he was looking good when he actually touched the ball. Not his fault our coaching staff is incompetent. When he had a decent OC in Turner he was cranking out yards like no one. Maybe he won’t last more than a couple more years and this will have been for the best in the long run, but right now it just sickens me how little we got for a generational talent. Again. And how badly we wasted a generational talent. Again.

CMC makes just over half what the top WRs make. He’d be most teams best WR. His contract wasn’t bad just because his position is listed as RB. Name the last WR that had as many total yards as CMC’s last healthy year. And he was looking pretty healthy to me this year.

Stroud is my preference for now. Definitely looks different from the OSU QBs before. Reads the defense well, goes through progressions, throws an absolutely beautiful ball, evasive in the pocket but not a runner. Looks like the one. Young looks like a playmaker but not only is his size a concern but his game also has the biggest potential to not translate of the two in my opinion. I haven’t seen any others that even warrant conversation. Definitely not Levis from what I’ve seen so far.

No first, even a ‘24 first? We got f’d

Yea we should take whatever we can get for Shaq. One good year in five or six or however long he’s been here isn’t enough. He’s a prime example of big cap space that should be shed because he’s not really helping the team in the future. Totally different than CMC, Burns, Brown, Chinn, the rest of these guys being foolishly brought up.

For now I’m on the CJ Stroud bandwagon. I’ve watched a bunch of videos and he looks way better than Fields or any of the OSU QBs that people hold against him. He reads the field (Fields and the others didn’t), makes good decisions, has a helluva arm, slippery in the pocket while not a running QB, looks like the one that will finally break the curse of the OSU QBs as long as he goes to a team and system that doesn’t break him like the Jets tend to (jury’s out on ZW but he’s looking solid so far) and Rhule would have.