JawnyBlaze

Yea I was agreeing with that. Hill is worth more than Burns. Not Kirk.

Yea looks like my memory was just off. Kirk got 4 years up to $84mil, Adams got 5 years 141.25mil and Hill got 4 years 120. Point holds though. If Kirk got $21mil a year, a top DE contract should blow a mid tier WR’s contract out of the water. Hill is more of a game changer, sure, but WR isn’t a more important position than DE and Burns is going to get upper tier DE money.

I dunno if my memory is just off but I remember Hill getting $35mil a year and Kirk getting $30, and Adam’s getting just under Hill

Kirk got $30 a year I thought. That’s what I heard at the time and blew my mind

Christian Kirk is making more than that top DE money. Let that sink in lol

$24mil a year for a DE doesn’t seem that extravagant when we got WRs making $35mil a year. Burns is easily worth more than that, and he’ll get it if Chubb got 24. Burns is better by a fair bit.

Looked at some Dugan video. He seems interesting. Really quick to run and I didn’t see a whole lot of going through progressions but throws a nice ball. Will wait for more video toward the end of the season. Who really impressed me was Quinten Johnson. By far the best looking WR I’ve seen so far this year, easily better than Marvin Harrison Jr. Looks like Atlanta Julio Jones. Not even Alabama Julio, but Julio 2.0.

We drafted one of Cam’s receivers (and his LT). Neither lasted long. I’ll look at Dugan but I imagine if he was as good as Stroud or Young I’d have heard more about him.

If you need a QB you do whatever you can to find that QB. Doesn’t matter if you pick #1 and it’s just identifying the right one, or picking #10 and determining whether you need to trade up after identifying the right one and then negotiating that trade. It’s a difficult job, which is why none of us have it.

Drafting DJ over Ridley has always been the right choice.

Yea, last year’s class was bad, I didn’t really like any of them in the 1st. I was good with Corral or Howell in the mid rounds. And the year before, I’m glad we didn’t fall for the Fields trap, the only QBs I liked there were Lawrence and Wilson. Time will tell for them but they went to historically bad teams, especially for QBs. This year however, we need to get our QB. Not next year, not years down the road. This year.

The point is we need to go ahead and be prepared to take one instead of kicking the can down the road because “next year’s QBs are better”. They’re saying we need to draft one.

For sure. Which is why we shouldn’t trade him.

Goodness if Chubb is worth “at least” a current first, Burns is worth more than that. Significantly more than a couple firsts a few years down the road.

That’s just more baseless Huddle rhetoric. Gets repeated enough that people start taking it as true without an ounce of thought. Same as the drivel about him being bad against the run.

PFF is trash but Ickey is a beast and passes the eye test. He’s been great all year.

With Hooker it’s not his age that scares me, it’s that he’s a one read and run QB from what I’ve seen. I’ll do more research as we get closer to the draft and there’s more video out there of all the QBs, but what I’ve seen from the games played so far I want no part of Hooker or Levis.

But the Huddle sez he is turrible against the run shirley you jest!

I disagree. His first season he was legitimately weak against the run. He didn’t set the edge, he focused on just being a pass rusher. Now he’s a strong pass rusher as well as a good run defender. The only metric by which he hasn’t improved much is the sack stat. There is much more to judge a DE by than sack numbers, despite what many here believe.

The exact words I was thinking of when I was going to make a comment. Conservative. No thanks. I like Wilks but he’s not the future of the NFL. Not the direction I want this team to go. Sure the team is looking better right now, but it would be hard to look as bad as Rhule had it and this is probably just a surge brought about by change. I’d much rather start over fresh with a new HC and staff to mold our new QB.

No thanks. Maybe if they also threw in this year’s 2nd.

The pressures cause negative plays by the offense (ints, incompletions, etc), offense have to gameplan against him because he’s so fast which makes everyone else around him have an easier job, and he’s also a lot better against the run than most give him credit for. If the offense throws two blockers at him and runs right at him, then yea he’s going to get run on but so is just about every other elite DE. But he’s smart at recognizing plays, smart at setting the edge and pursues from behind across the los really well. Many times he tracks down RBs that ran to the opposite side and tackles them from behind as they’re being patient and waiting for their blocks to develop to the side they’re running. He does a lot that doesn’t show up in the sack column. There’s a reason most in the business views him as an elite DE even if many Panthers fans don’t

9 sacks a year is fine with top 10 money with everything else he brings to the table.