JawnyBlaze

One last time because you obviously don’t understand how these things work and have no interest in knowing. The trade would depend on the Panthers making the Texans think we could go either way and therefore a risk of taking the guy they want. The Panthers taking the trade would just tell the Texans that we’d be ok with either guy. That’s it. I’m done trying to help you understand a point other people were making, especially since I don’t really think this trade will happen because it has too many points of failure. But it IS possible if you understand how NFL draft trades work.

I’m sure they do know who they want and the comment about “still liking two guys” is just gamesmanship in the off chance they can hustle an extra mid to late pick out of Houston. There would be absolutely no risk if they do trade down though because they’d know who Houston is taking.

It seems a pretty good portion of the huddle don’t understand football or how draft pick trades work. They keep harping about risks and Texans wouldn’t tell us and don’t realize THATS HOW ITS DONE. They’re trying to apply non football logic to a football situation.

Yes they would, it’s standard. If you trade up, you tell the team you’re trading with who you’re taking. No team is trading down if there’s a chance you’re taking their guy

I don’t think this will happen, if only because I doubt we’ll be able to keep our preference sufficiently hidden.

Any such trade would almost certainly happen on draft night, on the clock, and we’d know who they’re picking. A team wouldn’t lie about that because then no one would ever trade with them again.

I keep seeing people saying words like “risk”, there would be no risk. We’d know who they’re taking…

I think one important detail people are missing is that the Texans would have to tell us who they’d take at 1 for us to trade with them. It’s gamesmanship, we would have to not tip our hand which QB we’re taking in order to make them think there’s a chance we’d take their guy even though we’d be ok with either, all while knowing exactly who we prefer.

The best we could probably hope for would be #34. Realistically I’d take a 3rd. Wouldn’t do the trade at all of they were targeting our #1 (hopefully Stroud) and that would make us take our 1b. If we’re dropping to 2 and getting Stroud regardless, then honestly I’d take anything, it’d be a freebie.

It’s not going to be Richardson. I could see him if we stuck at 9 or maybe if we went up to 5ish, but #1 has to play soon. Richardson will need time, I don’t think there’s any debating that. He would also be just way too risky to be giving up all those picks for.

Heh yea. I can’t think of one decent WR they’ve drafted.

Yea but according to the context of the title and thread, Moose in Chicago wasn’t as good as DJ. If it said “Chicago has never gotten a WR from Carolina as good as DJ” then yea, Moose could be argued.

that’s talking about Chicago’s history, not ours.

I love DJ though, not trying to minimize him. His absence will be missed but they’re saying the deal wouldn’t have gotten done without him so it is what it is. Getting that QB is way more important and we can get another 1200 yd WR

I dunno, Brandon Marshall was pretty good there if I recall correctly, he just didn’t stick around long enough to amass the stats. Could be I’m confusing Chicago Marshall with Denver Marshall though

If you watched every game like I did and still recite the “his first reads we’re always open” trope, then I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe some subconscious bias is making some things stick out in your memory than others? Harrison Jr isn’t a burner separation getter, he’s a circus catcher. Without Stroud’s amazing accuracy and timing putting those balls right where Harrison needed to be the one with a chance then Harrison isn’t making those circus catches and wowing everyone. OSU’s OL was inconsistent, the RBs were jags, he had a great WR and a good WR but to my eyes it was him putting the balls where they needed when they needed to be there that gave those WRs the opportunity to shine. Olave and Wilson were different, separation makers. You could say last year he usually had receivers running open. That’s not what I saw this year. I saw him threading needles, reading the entire field, hitting players in stride with anticipation like no one has done in a decade. We all have our lenses we see the same things through differently, so that’s just what I was seeing. I just hope in this case I’m right cuz I’d definitely rather put the keys to our franchise in the hands of someone I can trust to be available on game day.

My immediate reaction to the CMC trade was I hated it. After a couple days I got over the emotions and saw that it was just what was best for all parties involved. Now I see it as the catalyst that made this trade possible. We would be without #39 if we didn’t have 61, plus we have the other picks to use to move up from 39 if we want or pad out depth at LB, DL, or wherever we want if we don’t move up. Game changing trade.

That’s simply not true. Watch the games. His reads were not usually open. This isn’t a Fields situation, gotta look past the stats and narratives and look at what actually happened.

Absolutely. I’ve been saying since early in the season that Stroud was the guy. His body of work, his throws and decision making, is superior to Young or anyone else.

Good deal for both teams because Chicago got the #1 receiver they’ve been needing since Robinson left and we didn’t have to give up nearly as much draft capital as was originally expected. People saying we got fleeced are just saying that cuz it’s the Panthers so of course whatever they did was the dumb move. They also tend to overlook the details like how this year’s second is the later one and we still have our second round pick and how the other second is two years down the road, not next year’s. I even heard one ESPN reporter talking to Schefter say “2023 first and second and 2024 first and second plus DJ Moore!” and Schefter didn’t even bother to correct him.

Eh, I doubt it but we’ll see. Past precedent has been a third if I recall correctly. We might be able to get a second given the circumstances but a first seems like it’d be too much

Ain’t no way they’re giving up a first just to move one spot. Gotta be reasonable. A third is probably the best we could hope for.

That’s ridiculous, has nothing to do with processing.

Absolutely, Young was great. Stroud is just that good though. I mean, there are peripheral skills that Young is better at, the scrambling, extending plays, that kind of thing. But when it comes to deciding who to throw to and then making a throw that gives the receiver the best chance to catch it, that’s Stroud. Best I’ve seen at it in a while. Young is the best I’ve seen in a couple years outside of Stroud.