JawnyBlaze

This didn’t age well.

Don’t really disagree. They were actually really good the year before. I’m not saying ignore them totally, maybe take a swing at a C in the middle rounds, but let’s see if the new staff can get the guys we have clicking again. If they just suck, well this year is a sunk year anyway. They can just contribute to getting as high a draft pick as possible for our new QB and THEN we can go crazy on OL heh. I’m not convinced the group we have is a lost cause though. They weren’t good last year (though not as bad as a lot of people think) but they were literally the strength of the offense the year before.

Being a free country doesn’t entitle you to do whatever you want in private spaces, such as privately owned message boards.

He’s just sticking up for his boy, and that’s fine. But there’s no way he watched enough Panthers games to make an informed opinion. Of the three entities mentioned: Bryce, the OL and the WRs, Bryce was the worst.

Ever hear of Jim Irsay? Tepper could show up at a Panthers press conference naked blitzed out of his mind tomorrow and he wouldn’t have to sell the team.

13 he had Gross so that was something, but 17 was pretty bad too. Larsen and Williams were awful. Norwell had one good year, Turner had maybe three. Kalil was always solid but really I’d say every year after Gross was gone he had a poor OL except ‘15 when it was just decent rather than poor. He always had ludicrously bad tackles after Gross except Oher who was just decent at best. ‘14 was certainly the worst, one of the worst OLs in history maybe heh. To sum it up, in nine years his first two years his lines were solid, 15 it was decent and the other six were poor to historically bad. That’s the way I saw it anyway.

And ‘13 and ‘17

Only on the huddle. On IG and twitter people still defend him to their dying breath. Same with the media.

People get absolutely stuck on pre draft hype. Happens all the time. Jeudy, Chase Young, Bryce. Too many other examples to recall.

Hayell no. Juedy is doodie

Eh, I was down on Chuba his first couple years but last year made me think he can be a lead back. Better QB play will force teams to stop focusing on stopping the run and Chuba (and Sanders and whoever else) will do better.

Quinn is probably the worst hire. I’d guess Harbaugh is the best but riskiest. The others I don’t have a strong opinion on. Morris might be good but I wouldn’t bet on it.

I dunno, I think he’s got good taste in dogs.

You’re assuming that the article is accurate in saying Tepper influenced the pick of Bryce. That’s just speculation until Tepper, Fitterer or Reich confirm it.

Thanks for this, I was just going off what I personally saw, but assuming those stats are correct it perfectly illustrates how our receivers were good enough. Not great, but good enough.

Lawd I almost fell out my chair reading someone say Cam was LESS accurate than Bryce…the least accurate QB I maybe have ever seen in my life. Cam had a high throw every now and then but he had good placement and put the ball where it needed to be for the WR to make a play and potential gain more yards. Bryce had a handful of good throws ALL YEAR. Even the short passes were often inaccurate and prevented the WR from trying to get YAC. Most passes over 10-15 yards either sailed 10 yards over the receivers head or otherwise nowhere in the vicinity.

They weren’t. They got NFL open enough. There were FAR more wildly inaccurate passes than drops. Bold: Yes, please go look at Cam’s years with bad OL and no weapons other than Olsen (that’s every single year after Smitty left). Even at the worst point Cam was 100x better than Bryce. One of those years he was MVP, with only the benefit of a mediocre LT rather than an atrocious one being a difference. Still a bad OL. Three of those years we were legit SB contenders. With a terrible HC and the worst OC to ever coordinate in the NFL.

The completely unsubstantiated rumor that Bryce is Tepper’s darling and he made that decision in doing a lot of heavy lifting in your claim.

I think it just requires improvement, not necessarily playoffs. I don’t think we’ve improved a single time since Tepper got the team. Ron was always on his last legs here, sticking around 6 years too long, Rhule treaded water for two and a half years, then Reich was actually WORSE than Rhule somehow, by the look of results on the field. So if there is an actual uptick, I think the leash will be much longer. Even as modest as four wins this year, as long as the offense looks somewhat competent, then six or seven wins the next year, then year three could end with nine wins and no playoffs and it would still be improvement. As long as the team looks to be going in the right direction.

His arm strength isn’t good, but it’s good enough. Probably better than some we’ve had here recently *cough* Teddy two yards *cough* The areas he needs to improve on the most, by far, are accuracy and decision making/processing. And those aren’t limited by his dna limiting his size and strength. He can improve those. He just has to work on it. Once he isn’t one of the worst I’ve ever seen at those areas, then he can take advantage of a hopefully improved OL and pass catching group. But until then a group of Moss, Rice and Gonzalez wouldn’t be of much use here.

Off topic a little, but somewhat relevant. I read earlier that Bengals’ RT Jonah Williams is a free agent this year. Played LT well his first few years then they got a new LT and he shifted to RT and maintained his high level of play. Probably wouldn’t be cheap but if we could get him to play LT, slide Icky in to G that could potentially address a lot of our OL deficiencies in one signing. Would make the offense that Canales wants to run easier to execute (to swing it back on topic heh).

I think scheming has more than a little to do with it. At this point I dunno about TMJ, but his whole career has been in terrible schemes. I wouldn’t blame them if they just cut bait with him though.

I typo’d the title, meant to just say “Burns trade to Baltimore”, not as if it’s happened but rumor of it in the works. Is that bit you pasted from the Bleacher Report article it references? I read the fanrecap article and didn’t see the “we’d love to see” paragraph. edit: nvm, you pasted from the article Steelo linked, not me.

I mean, everything I said pointed out the wording in the article sounded like baseless speculation, so it seems I’m not the one with the reading comprehension issues.