JawnyBlaze

I don’t know that any of them do better catching Bryce’s wounded ducks.

I’d still try to trade Burns. I love the guy and he’s way underrated here, but we need the picks and cap space on other positions right now. Definitely throw the bag at Brown though. I saw an article earlier today where some jabroni was saying we should trade Brown lol. Adam Silver or someone like that.

Yea Norman actually wasn’t trash. Many of us were yelling at Ron “it’s my personal duty to defend older veterans at all costs” Rivera for benching him off one busted coverage. He was still solid his first year and quite good his second.

F ***** minus. The only pick that’s not an F so far is Mingo. I’d give him a C-. Didn’t see enough to completely trash the pick, effort seemed to be there, just no opportunities with the JV backup throwing him the ball.

When in doubt, never trust Person.

Well I watched every game and every throw and I think he hit one or two passes that travelled in the air over 15 yards all season. I’ve seen ONE highly suspect chart that claims he’s accurate with caveats. Ask anyone who actually watched the games. His accuracy is terrible, his placement is terrible. Sure he can make some throws some of the time, some of his throws 5-10 yards looked nice, but even a good portion of those the receiver has to unnecessarily stretch or reach back for. One of the very few passes thatbi recall that did complete for 15 or 20+, the WR had to stop, cut in and completely alter his route to get to the terrible pass. But it was a completion so it counts for Bryce even though it was a terrible pass. The number of throws where a receiver was running free wide open and he just sailed it over their head or way to one side or the other far outnumber the “nice” passes

Most important thing for him to do is work on that god awful accuracy. The decision making will come with practice reps (or not ) but he can work on hitting the broad side of a barn on his own.

That means nothing, especially for a guy like him. Just depends on the narrative the staticians want to push. Moose probably woulda been really low on a list like that too.

He liked Mingo but he wasn’t his favorite WR. Besides, Mingo has had one year with a terrible QB. Let’s see what he can do when he gets a decent QB.

I mean, you said no one. So the possibility that you didn’t actually mean no one is why threw the last part in. I have no way of knowing people’s reasoning (not to mention there’s no such thing as a legit draft analyst imo. They’re pretty much all hacks.). And even if someone switched their reason solely because of the S2 they wouldn’t admit it.

It’s still just a completely unproven theory that Tepper even preferred Young at all.

There were literally people on this board who were all about Stroud until that test and then hopped firmly on the Bryce bandwagon. Now if you’re saying no decision makers’ minds were changed? Sure that’s possible

No they weren’t. He was very good every single year. You just had to know what to look for. Some of us were saying it all along.

I’d be happy to see Wilkes get a chance to be a HC again, as long as it’s not in Carolina. It would satisfy the curiosity of whether he’d still coach so conservative and scared when he has the reins from day one, or if that was the product of being given the keys to someone else’s ship. Wouldn’t want to take that risk with my team, but it would be interesting to find out. It would also be another point of data for the question of what makes a better coach these days: a leader of men or a smart football guy. Cuz the only “leader of men” specialists I’ve seen have success lately has been Dan Campbell and probably Harbaugh. Most of the others have been smart and innovative football guys who at a bare minimum excelled as a coordinator before. Reid, McVay, Ryans, Sirianni, Zac Taylor, McDermott, Stefanski, Shanahan.

Pay your best player, you don’t say.

I don’t know what point you’re trying to make from the first part. He took over from good DCs so it’s not his fault he’s not as good as them? And as to the second part, sure he’s a better leader than Reich or Rhule but see my above post for my full feelings on him as an HC. His absolute ceiling as a HC is a poor man’s Rivera. I saw him as HC for us, he’s WAAAY too conservative and scared. Nothing would be worse than to get stuck in the purgatory of being good enough to not get fired but too bad to be a contender.

Assuming Wilkes would turn our ~4 win average team (under Reich and Rhule) into a 7-8 win team, that’s the absolute worst situation. I’d much rather get 2 wins under Reich than 7 under Wilkes because 2 wins will get him replaced quicker. 7-8 wins a year might be enough to stick around for four or five years but that’ll be his ceiling. As a HC Wilkes is basically Rivera but with worse defensive chops and no Cam to make him look better than he is. I’d much rather take a chance and if we find the next great young HC, then awesome. If it’s a flop (like Reich) at least we’re taking another shot sooner rather than later, plus (theoretically) getting better players through higher draft picks.

I don’t hate the guy, far from it. I hated the idea that he should be our next HC. I hate that people are STILL making that wild ass claim. I disliked him as our DC as well, BOTH TIMES he took over as our DC our defense got worse. Happened in SF too. Sure maintaining #1 would be tough but the roster was even more stacked than the year before and the yards ranking dropped by 7. That’s not nothing. He seems like a good dude and players have said nothing but nice things about him so I have no reason to dislike the person. I just would never want him as the Panthers HC or DC.

You have an interesting definition of successful. “Made every defense he coordinated worse” doesn’t fit my definition. “Was marginally better than Rhule” doesn’t either.

#1 in points and yards the previous year, #3 and 8 under Wilks. Like I said before, every defense he takes over gets worse.

Gotta pay attention to tendencies. Has McDermott done it a lot in Buffalo? I honestly don’t know, but it was a problem during Ron’s entire tenure. Wilkes was the same way both times as DC here, during his interim HC time, and as DC in SF. I dunno if he was that way in Arizona but you can see a pattern with Ron and Wilkes.

Oh there’s a reason. People just don’t like talking about it because it’s not overt, it’s deeply ingrained and not easy to point out evidence.

When it happens once, he got a bum deal. When it happens twice, maybe it’s a coincidence. Thrice? The problem is he’s just not very good. You can tout the defense rankings or whatever all you want, that is one of the most stacked defenses in history. He reverted to his passive soft tendencies and it contributed heavily to them losing. Same reason he was a poor HC and same reason both times he took over as DC here the defenses regressed. It’s like a quote I’ve been seeing online a lot lately, if you meet an asshole in the morning then you just met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you’re the asshole.

Evero >>>>>>>>>> Wilks

I’m thinking you didn’t hear about him getting fired. 49ers saw the same thing I said both times he was DC here. Not a good DC. Definitely not a good HC.