JawnyBlaze

At this point I’m hoping for Cooper or JPJ at 33 and Mitchell or Mcconkey at 39.

I was starting to get my hopes up if Brian Thomas lasted til around 25 or so we’d move up to get him. Jags took that temptation away though.

I want the good players pushed to us to be WRs…looking to be a good chance that happens. Mitchell or McConkey please, and a top C.

I was beginning to hope we’d trade UP to take Brian Thomas but then the jags took him and removed that temptation.

You’re not wrong but if he performs on the field I’ll take that over Bryce’s garbage any day. Not that I think they’re anything alike but people love talking poo about Cam, Baker and Burrow’s personalities too. Doesn’t matter as long as they stay out of trouble and produce results. Time will tell where Caleb falls on the spectrum.

Yea Falcons should (and hopefully will) get slammed hard for this tampering business. But even without that, Kirk Cousins is solid but the team still isn’t good. Their O is super overhyped based on college production. The RB they got last year looks good but he’s no Barkley or CMC. Their young WR and TE are dookie no matter how much people wanna hype them based on their college days. (And by dookie I mean compared to expectations. They’re mid, objectively).

If Young doesn’t improve exponentially it’s our worst trade by a large margin based on return on investment.

I’m not sure where you’re going with the Star comparison, he was an absolute stud here lol. Behind Luke he was the biggest impact player on our defense. That’s why it started falling off a cliff when he left.

It was probably something more along the lines of “we hope you make it to 33 because we’d love to make you a Panther” which is a far cry from “we’re definitely drafting you at 33 if you’re there” but an easy twist for the player to change it to “they told me they’ll draft me at 33”

Three firsts is what you pay for a QB, not the first non-QB.

Yea that’s pretty wild. Would be awful.

Well when you get to be his age you gotta be careful.

Joseph Person is the Mel Kiper of sports journalists.

Sure, I wish in addition to picking the right QB we had given Burns instead of Moore, but offensive pieces are a lot easier to find than the QB. You gotta do what you gotta do to get that piece.

Denying him a legit OL for most of his career shortened his career. Shula’s dumbass shortened his career (don’t ask for evidence. Just trust me on this).

I concur with that recounting. I didn’t want Herbert because I wasn’t impressed with what I saw from him. I was very wrong and saw that immediately when we played them that year.

Sometimes you have to. You just gotta pick the right one. The trade up to 1 wasn’t the problem imo. If we had taken Stroud we’d be sitting pretty.

I haven’t done much research this year. Last year taught me that educating myself on the prospects and being absolutely right about who we should pick makes it sting more when we don’t take the right pick and I’m proven right. With that said, if I could have my pick of the maybe possibles: #33: Ladd #39: best Center, I’ll go with JPJ if a name is needed

Another way to look at it (not entirely accurate, but in effect) we will have traded Burns and dropped six spots in the second for three extra second round picks. That’s a win in my book, better than just a second for Burns.

Why all this “has to be picks this year” sentiment? Giants will surely be picking high again next year, so that second will still be high. Assuming around the same as the 39 they gave us this year. We still get a pick in the second this year from them (47). It’s not like we’d have to wait long for our next pick (39). We’re not in win now mode, two seconds will help more than one second, even if it is six picks earlier than our first second this year would be after the trade. I’d rather have their second next year than their third this year, it’s a better pick and will assumably turn into a better player. That’s what we need long term, not more bodies this year. We may also need that second rd pick next year to trade up high enough for our new QB next year if we’re still bad but not quite as bad as this year. If we’re picking at 7 or 8 next year, we’d probably need to trade up for a QB. That’s far more important than whatever we could get in the third this year.

I’d definitely take that trade, especially if we still get Ladd at 39.

Yea. Don’t like it at all, but everything would be improved with black helmets . It’s our worst combo for sure.

I’m not arguing Fitterer was better, but if you look at the whole body of picks I don’t think there’s a big gap.

Yea in that one single pick comparison.

I wouldn’t deny Hurney was better, but the gap ain’t that big. Yea Hurney drafted some really good players in the first but he still had some misses there. If we’re going to fault Fitterer for Horn’s injury history, we have to give Hurney a big L on Otah.