JawnyBlaze

Now if we’re talking Zach Wilson...for two firsts it becomes a tougher decision.

Only if he’d be significantly cheaper. Like a single 1st. Watson is better and younger. Has a lot longer left as a high end player.

Pretty pleased so far. Not perfect but definitely making strides that we never would have seen under Richardson. We’d still have Rivera and Hurney if not for Jeans Day.

No pocket is always clean, and most QBs will have decent stat line when cherry picking plays when they had a clean pocket. Of course having the best oline possible is ideal and helps out QBs, no one would ever argue otherwise. But we could have the ‘93 Cowboys’ oline and with Teddy back there we aren’t going anywhere.

You misspelled seven.

That doesn’t make any sense. You’re implying we like Fields as a prospect more than Watson as a proven commodity? Even if that were true, driving up the price for Watson doesn’t benefit us in any way. In your scenario the Jets trade for Watson, the Texans then take Wilson, and it’s the same outcome as if the Jets just took Wilson in the first place. There is zero benefit to us

Truth. All the graphic in the OP shows is that Teddy can ONLY function under perfect conditions.

If the jets trade for Watson, then the pick they give the Texans will still be used on a QB, even if Darnold is part of the package probably...

YGM wasn’t one of the three choices. If he could take the place of Chinn, then I’d probably go with YGM

Yea man, annoys me when people tried to claim he “didn’t live up to his draft position”. He more than exceeded it, just what he does isn’t as obvious for the casual fan to see. Even without being second for rookie QB pressures he would have at least met expectations. Being only second to the guy that undeservedly won droy in QB pressures for a non-UT DT is icing on the cake and far exceeds expectations.

If I gotta choose one of the three it’s Chinn. Love the guy and so glad we finally have a good Safety, but the front four is just way too important.

Agree with OP. But last year was the most miserable Panthers season for me ever. Worse than ‘10. Worse than ‘01. Even though this year’s team was better, it was miserable going out there watching Teddy bumble away what could have been a decent year. I was much less down on this team than most, and the fact we were able to win 5 games with Teddy as our QB proves why. With a decent QB last year would have been around 9 wins. Maybe even one or two more. Teddy shat away 8 possible wins. And that’s why it was more miserable to me. At least those other two years it was a matter of overall talent and coaching deficiency. No matter who we get at QB this year, whether a rookie or Watson or someone out of left field like Dak, and no matter if we go 2-14 or something like that, it will be less miserable than this past year.

Our Oline was decent last year. With the picks we save this way we can treat the oline like we treated the defense in the draft last year. Resign, or at least tag, Moton, draft LT with our first pick (hell, if someone we like is still there in the mid to late first I wouldn’t mind trading next years first to trade back into the first). Then the next few picks get spent on the interior oline. With that strategy we could be even better than last year on the oline

That’s pretty much where I’m at with this too. I don’t like him, but having good QB play again is far more important and at a less crippling cost, we could be competitive right away

Funniest thing I’ve seen all day

If we had a QB that didn’t forget DJ exists half the time, there would be no discussion about Samuel being better. I love Curtis and hope we can keep him for around $10mil or less, but DJ is better all around. I’m super glad we have Anderson but if we have to pick two of our top three, he’s the odd man out.

I like Wilson a lot, the next QB on the list isn’t even close to him....but Lawrence is above him.

Also, the way I saw it, Rivera and Fox were basically the same coach except all of Fox’s flaws were more exaggerated in Rivera. The stubbornness and unwillingness to adapt especially.

Rivera had a transcendent QB. Fox had Jake. I do agree W-L is more on the coach than any other individual involved in a team (I despise attributing wins to QBs) but in this case Rivera had a cheat code.

And Fox is better.

Easy choice, top.

You’re not wrong. But there has to be some line. I’d probably be better with giving four 1sts than three and cmc

Or at least not count plays where the pass goes 5 yards and DJ Moore takes it 50.

I’m swinging for the fences here: he was more frustrating to watch than Ron Rivera’s coaching.

Bridgewater was more frustrating to watch than Byron Bell playing LT and Haruki Nakamura playing S combined. Worse than 2009 Jake. Worse than Lagadu Naane.