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Light contact training camp practices heavily favors the speedsters. Ultimately the truth will come out when the real games start in the regular season.

Most elite WRs aren't necessarily burners. Not a lot of elite WRs in the modern era were 4.3 guys. If anything, sometimes it seems like the super fast guys use their speed as a crutch and it hampers their development in the intricacies of route running.

Basically it's 11 pages because two people can't accept this and have concluded that means that everyone else is stupid.

I used to mock turf toe. Like dude, it's a TOE. Man up and GTFO over it. Yeah, get a bad case of turf toe and report back. You don't realize how absolutely vital your big toe is until it's useless and causing you agony.

It literally took me years to fully get over turf toe. Bring misdiagnosed as gout when I'm telling the doctor it's 100% an injury didn't help. I should've just left that office and bought a walking boot but just limped through it and now I also have knee issues on that leg from walking for months rolling my weight to the outside of my foot away from the big toe.

Good grief man, you're dragging this stuff into yet another thread?

68. Tied with Jaxson Dart for the #2 rookie QB. Seems like Ward fell victim to being lumped in with the overall weak QB class when honestly he had the makeup both physically and from a stats perspective of a typical #1 overall QB. Meanwhile, Trevor "Generational" Lawrence had a 78 rookie rating and has a 74 rating in the coming game. LOL

Every draft would be wildly different redrafted a few years later. Rookie Madden ratings are pretty much entirely based on mock draft hype. The Cam Ward disrespect is REAL though. 72 for a #1 overall is wild.

GREAT play but the catch itself wasn't spectacular. Same with X Clown. That catch KB made though... oh wee mayne. I really thought we had one of this generation's special receivers after that play. Damn it...

That catch he made in perfect bracket coverage between Sherman and Thomas who were probably the #1 CB and #1 FS in the league at the time honest to God might be the best single catch in Panthers history.

Mr. QB School just doesn't realize that he's telling on himself needing a big ass window of a mile of separation to throw into.

Yep, all reports were out of that joint practice was that KB was the best player on the field and #2 wasn't even close. The combo of the ACL and losing his mom was just too much. He probably didn't have the mental makeup to be great for a long time but I really thing he could've been a David Boston type where he was absolutely dominant for a few years.

Typical of bigger WRs. KB was similar in that way. I think T-Mac is faster than KB but definitely doesn't have KB's physicality. He definitely has the better natural hands though KB was one of those odd guys who seemed like his hands got better the harder the catch was.

All of this bullshit over a hypothetical pursuit of a LB on the 31st ranked defense in the league and a fundamental misunderstanding of PFF and link after link proving I was right. Awesome.

#7-10 were all 78 ratings. T-Mac is right behind them at 77. No massive slight going on here.

Did you really just type that and concluded with telling me to be a nicer person? You hypocrisy knows no bounds. You say that I make little comments about a person's intellect when you literally just made a post basically saying that you and NFL personnel were the only people smart enough to understand how to use tools like PFF.

The bad is that I haven't seen many clips of him getting open. The good is that he's finding ways to make plays anyway.

LOLOLOLOLOL I've very clearly laid out why I wouldn't do this. You haven't addressed any of it. All you've done is mid characterize arguments and make an ass of yourself, just like you did on the PFF thread.

I'm just enjoying watching two Panthers fans absolutely crashing out over the hypothetical pursuit of a LB that the 31st ranked defense in the league that spent a 1st round pick on the guy and is uncertain whether or not they want him to be to be a part of their future or not. Good stuff.

I'd love for you to go down to Panthers HQ and help them out with your expertise. That was a whole lot of typing to say "it matters when it supports my point and it doesn't matter when it doesn't support my point." It's always the same story with all the "tools". LOL

The answer is that we don't know. I answered that for you pages ago. The question I have is why are you going to such great lengths to make a complete jackass of yourself?

Shhhhh, don't let him know how ridiculous it is. It's funny to watch

What "context" do you speak of? The context I'm speaking of is that outside of Theilen Coker was our most effective WR last year. Do you disagree with that? The secondary context I was speaking of is just like most PFF d riders, it magically only matters when it fits your preferred narrative. When it doesn't, then all of a sudden there's some other "context" or something or the other that needs to come into play. LOL

If he wants to continue to play and is physically capable of continuing to play then I'm sure a deal will be reached. But I'm not gonna sit here and feign pity for someone who has earned a literal fortune. He'll make more this year than most wildly successful people will earn in a lifetime. Taylor Moton is gonna be just fine with or without the Panthers moving forward.

Oh, look there! Jalen Coker was a top 5 rookie WR last year according to PFF. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-most-underrated-players-all-32-nfl-teams-2025 LOL