LinvilleGorge

The real problem is David Tepper. Bryce Young is just one of his many mistakes.

He's probably not. But Patterson wasn't either and he's still in the league as basically an offensive utility player relying primarily on athleticism and playmaking ability despite not really fitting in at any real position.

If Coker picks up where he left off last year he needs to quickly replace XL in the starting lineup. We might have need to use XL like the Vikings used Cordarelle Patterson. We may have drafted a great athlete who just isn't a WR. Okay, whatever. Don't cry about it. Just try to figure out how to best utilize him and understand that yeah, he's never gonna live up to 1st round billing. Again, whatever. Something is better than nothing. Try to figure it out.

I have no idea what's going on there if they're trying to curry favor with Tepper to try to get on his payroll too but it's odd and it might be tanking their credibility. Everyone else is watching these games too. You can't "muh system" your way through this poo

XL sucks but PFF seems like they're on mission to defend Bryce.

Yeah, Bryce is fine. He's a young man in good health with millions of dollars in the bank. He's in a far better situation than 99.999% of people. Ooohhhhhhh... you meant on the field? As a starting QB? He's fine THERE?

Watching almost any other NFL QB is painful for Panthers fans. Even if he sucks or is having a bad game you're gonna see flashes of talent that makes you think there might be something to work with there. There's UDFAs forced into action by rashes of injuries that show a higher talent level than Bryce.

If they kept a stat on who made me mutter "what the fug was that" under my breath Bryce Young would be the GOAT at that.

THAT WAS ALL JOSH ALLEN ON THAT ONE https://www.facebook.com/MEMES.of.the.NFL/videos/1317314010015858/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v I'm sorry... what???

I didn't say SB contender. Far from it. The D is quietly every bit as bad as the offense. The head coach is responsible for more than just the offense.

Bingo. At the end of the day, teams aren't afraid of Bryce beating them deep. They're treating the entire field as if it's the redzone. I doubt this play was about them preparing for that specific concept as much as it was simply about not fearing Bryce burning them deep. When DBs aren't worried about getting burned they can play really aggressively.

This shouldn't require explanation. Active vs. passive.

I'm generally not a big fan of head coach play callers. I'm really not a fan of it for inexperienced head coaches. Guys like Andy Reid and Sean Payton have decades of HCing experience.

So basically you shouldn't be out because on his best days Bryce can be mid-tier? Yeah, that's WHY I'm out. He's mostly terrible and when the season is lost he can be mid and maybe win a couple of games to tank your draft stock and give you false hope. That's not QB purgatory, that's QB hell.

Probably the strongest argument for benching Bryce.

Lord almighty...

A few mid-tier showings at the end of another throwaway season would leave me nerve wracked that we'd do exactly that. Tepper REALLY doesn't want to hear the pile on that will happen when we inevitably have to move on from Bryce.

Please tell me this is satire.

Lawrence was basically mediocre. He didn't do much to win a game but very importantly in this one he didn't do anything to lose the game which is what Bryce was busy doing on the other side of the ball. Don't forget that this game probably should've been 33-3 because we got bailed out of a pick six by an iffy call on the opposite side of the field and then scored a TD on the very next play. That was a 14 point swing right there

I think he has a chance and his mental makeup is a big part of why. I also think the Bears got a little complacent over the course of that game because the Vikings were completely inept on offense for most of it and once it started clicking for the Vikings the Bears couldn't get their head in the game and realize they had to wakeup and dial in again.

It looked like the same old trashy footwork to me. Bryce has never had good fundamentals footwork. He's always shuffled around square to the LOS and then once he sees where he wants to go he has to try to flip his hips and get his feet under him to deliver the throw. This was one of the things I would point out leading up to the draft as something that wasn't going to translate to the NFL.

Except at QB where they did the exact opposite and drafted a guy with none of the athletic measurables but just assumed he could translate his college production because super processor PG mentality, nevermind the reality that he'll no longer enjoy his team having a massive talent advantage over nearly every opponent.

You're not gonna turnover the entire locker room in the off-season. If you lose the trust of the whole team you're basically cooked. It's just a matter of if you get fired after this season or after another lost season.

It's cope from a believer. But if you drop the first and last 15 seconds or so he told a lot of truth in between he just can't allow himself to see it yet. It still has to be someone else's fault that Bryce is failing.