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I can't see that happening. Just reading between the lines on comments from the front office and staff I think we're about to give up on Shi but we see potential with Shenault. I definitely think Thielen and TMJ will be our top two WRs week one with Shenault and Mingo rounding out the top four. We'll see how it plays out over the course of the season. Thielen has additional value for us because he can play in the slot or outside.

Yeah, considering our WR room I'm okay with maybe overpaying a solid vet. Our rookie QB needs help and our young WRs could benefit from a good vet mentor. It might be overpaying from the eyes of another team but viewed through our eyes it (or a similar move) was an absolute necessity. It's not like it's a cap crippling move in the grand scheme of things. It's a bridge move and we desperately needed a WR bridge after being forced to trade DJ to get our QB.

Austin just isn't an NFL talent. He has good hands and he's fundamentally sound he's just not going to be able to get any separation at the NFL level.

Proehl is stereotypical slot receiver type. He's very fundamentally sound but he's undersized (even for a slot) and honestly just doesn't have NFL caliber talent IMO.

I remember Dohnovan West being on my radar as a potential late round pick.

It's up to 265g now so it's more than doubled it's weight. Eyes are fully open now and it's starting to take some clumsy awkward steps.

My only statements in this thread have been regarding the hypothetical situation where Bryce doesn't start because he doesn't heat out Andy Dalton. Unsurprisingly, there aren't any positive takes in that scenario. I've said that I expect Bryce to start.

I've made no proclamations about what I expect to happen. You've just assumed these things. I expect Bryce to start week one. If he doesn't because he can't beat out Andy Dalton there's gonna be panic in the fanbase. Am I wrong?

Okay, Bruce. Covering for the coming tanking a little hard there bro. With that said, Mayfield is significantly better than he looked here playing for the Rhule clown show. Still doubt he'll ever be seen as a long term solution at QB for an NFL team again.

I don't know how you interpret this as worrying.

I'm just acknowledging the obvious that the plan is going massively awry if Young doesn't start week one.

Let down? This place is going to be a complete poo show if Andy Dalton starts week one. Could you imagine Andy Dalton starting week one for us while Stroud and Richardson has great debuts?

Old school coaches want to make the youngster earn it. Even if everyone knows it's basically a farce.

Let's be honest. To this day all of his clout basically goes back to that one time when he hit that Michigan RB really hard. Without that one highlight reel he'd just be another underperforming high NFL draft pick who's hype fizzled and became an afterthought.

I think he may realize he just won't be good at it. I mean, he's never came across as particularly personable or engaging. He doesn't strike me as someone who would be a natural at broadcasting and I don't see him doing something if he isn't going to be great at it.

Imagine being in a situation where you could look at a $375M contract and just decide to be like, "Nah. I'm good. Think I'll just pass." Damn. Must be nice. And he'll end up getting even more because they know he can afford to just walk away from it if he wants to.

He does when his first read is open. It's just that when his first read isn't open AND immediate pressure doesn't force him to instantly check down, that's when disaster strikes. Sam Darnold having to go through his progression is likely to yield a negative result. Unfortunately for him, NFL DCs excel at taking away your first option. That's why Darnold looks good in systems until DCs get a few games of film to study. Once they get a feel for Sam Darnold within an offensive system it's a wrap. They've got him.

Yeah, we know he's an extremely talented thrower of the football. That's how he keeps getting work. But if that was all that mattered when it came to playing QB Jamarcus Russell would be the GOAT.

Which causes Charlotte residents to beam with pride for a moment and contributes literally nothing else. Seems like a shitty investment of $600M if you ask me.

What is this "pull" though? I mean, let's be honest. Charlotte isn't a tourism destination. It's just not. It's not like someone is going to see a shot of the Charlotte skyline while watching a Panthers game and say, oh wow! What an amazing city! Let's go there for our next vacation. Funny thing that this "pull" isn't show in any actual economic studies. The most likely conclusion is that it simply doesn't exist.

Yes. All of this. Sold my house in the foothills of CO a little over two years ago. Moved back to western NC and bought a house 25 years newer (built in 2011 vs. 1986) that was 50% bigger (3000sqft vs 2000sqft) with 16x the acreage (12 acres vs. 3/4 acre) and we barely spent over half on the NC house that we sold the CO house for. The way real estate values have trended the CO property is still worth basically double the NC property but the CO market is cooling off quite a bit faster. The cost of living index vs. wages was fuged out there a decade ago. It's completely unmanageable at this point. Our household once was 50% above the median for our area and our purchase price was about 25% under the median home value for our area and I STILL felt borderline house poor.

From places where it's way more expensive. And they come with cash so they don't give a fug about interest rates.

I think a lot of economic theory is basically pseudoscience but it's not all that hard to do an economic study on things like this. Similar sized cities with and without NFL franchises. Before and afters with cities recently acquiring NFL franchises. Keep in mind, most economists are somewhere between extremely pro-business and completely pro-business so it goes against their basic instincts to argue against business investment. I've never seen a study that argues that public investment in sports stadiums is anything other than a giant negative.

Exposed. Go argue with the county commissioners in Cincinnati. Yes, we all know there is inflation. The numbers were solely to provide some basis for comparison.

Typical barely legible word salad from you when you try to present yourself as semi-intelligent. It's like a Kamala Harris speech rambling on about the passage of time. Cincinnati actually did some legwork on this. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wlwt.com/amp/article/cincinnati-bengals-paycor-stadium-deal-price-renovations/43636202 They found that the average cost of NFL stadium renovations $600-$850M. Their owner is saying a billion. So Tepper is basically asking for roughly 50-100% over average and 20% more than what the Bengals are quoting Cincinnati. Again, the number seems high. But there's pockets to line when you're fleecing municipalities.