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I've seen so much bad OL play watching the Panthers and Commanders that Philly's OL is pretty shocking to see. Blowing the DL off the ball in the running game and Hurts is standing back there doing his taxes in the pocket.

I've seen people talk about IF Bryce is a bust but I honestly haven't seen anyone flat out calling him a bust. Then again I would've probably just scrolled right past it if I had. We don't know what Bryce is going to be after only two games. All we can really discuss is what he's shown so far. Everything beyond that is just speculation.

Evans with a drop to send the Bucs 3 and out. Baker could've made a little better throw but it was plenty catchable and a ball Evans catches 9 times out of 10.

Where has anyone called him a bust? I've legitimately not seen it. Some folks are just reacting like discussing about his subpar play is akin to slander and it's honestly just absurd.

He has looked really bad this year. I think that injury is way worse than they've let on. It really doesn't seem like trying to play him through it is benefitting anyone.

However you need to cope. If you need a villain I'm here for it.

Should we make a thread of nothing but Bryce positivity and pin it? I'm not joking. The folks who only want to see that should have a place for it.

I don't hate the kid. I want him to be great. It's okay to talk about what we've seen so far.

Howell has looked good in two games and bad in one game. Bryce has looked bad in two games and good in zero. It is what it is. Just ignore the actual statistical facts I've talked about.

It looked to me like he was hesitating and second guessing everything. I don't know if he's hesitating because he's questioning his reads or hesitating because he's questioning his ability to make the throws.

I don't know why this is so hard to grasp. We'd all be celebrating if he was playing great. The reality is that he hasn't been. It is what it is. Hopefully he improves.

Yep, the left side of the OL has to Olay better. No way around it. Dalton honestly played way better than I expected.

The way he was playing part of that process might be sitting for awhile. The kid looked like he was on the verge of seeing ghosts.

I absolutely don't. But I'm not going to distort reality. Reality is that Bryce has been bad and Dalton was significantly better yesterday. That sucks, but like I said that is just cold hard reality. Going around being on utter denial doesn't make you a good fan. Any decent fan hopes Bryce will improve and be a great QB. But any rational fan has to admit that he hasn't been good so far. Sorry.

Yeah, I liked the pick and thought he had potential but he's clearly not ready. He's just getting abused. We have to have SOMEBODY better than that. Surely.

Well, Whiskey Myers was AWESOME. We left probably halfway through Eric Church's set.

He did a lot of throwing on the move running around at Alabama but NFL defenders are catching him.

Hiring Sean Payton is one of the few things that the Panthers could do that would get me to immediately renounce my fandom on the spot.

Reich sucks but all the folks begging for Sean Payton sure have gotten awfully quiet.

You're right, I missed Wilson. The sort function on that site doesn't work on my phone. Updated the title and original post. Thanks. Zach Wilson though... not great company.

The guy is unflappable. If they can fix their protection he'll bounce back. Unfortunately, I don't think they can. They're going to have to scheme around it. More establishing the run to be able to live off of play action. More screens and quick slants. Howell's strength is the deep ball but they're going to have to setup their shots.

Yesterday was terrible for him but it was also probably the worst pass protection I've personally ever seen in the NFL. Evidently it was the second highest pressure rate that has been recorded in the Next Gen Stats era (that would be dating back to 2018). https://x.com/granthpaulsen/status/1706056514627072037?s=20 You can't have good QB play with that.

A lot of people convinced themselves he was surrounded by subpar talent at Alabama while overlooking the reality that "subpar" for Alabama is still a top 10 college roster.

It's my big concern with Caleb Williams as a prospect. More and more every year this league is becoming about getting the ball out FAST. "Last season, his 3.24-second average time to throw was the highest among Power Five quarterbacks." That would be good for the second slowest time in the NFL since 2018.

The odds have to be VERY good for two top 5 picks and astronomical for two top 10 picks. They're probably gonna be able to draft a QB then turn around and grab a stud WR prospect to pair with DJ. Seems like a sweet setup but the Bears are hopelessly snakebit at QB so I'm sure they'll fug it up.