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Yeah, we would definitely be laughing at division rivals had they signed a TE to a 3 year/$21M contract who had 1700 yards over the course of five seasons with three different teams.

The only definitive statement I've made is that to this point in his career he's a bust. Because he is. I hope he turns that around here. It's okay to be honest and objective about our own players. The reality is that we'd all be pointing and laughing at a division rival if they gave Hayden Hurst $21M over 3 years.

I've cited both his bouncing around the league and his stats. You just bounce back and forth based on whichever is convenient for you at the time. You seem to just be arguing for the sake of argument. Name me another player that has bounced around four different teams over six years while posting subpar stats who isn't widely considered a bust.

If he's a former 1st round pick and he's bounced around the league largely due to lack of production and his former teams seeking out better option, then yeah it would be fair and customary to consider that player a bust. You sure are choosing a strange hill to die on.

I honestly hope he's great for us. All I'm saying is he hasn't lived up to his 1st round draft status and he has bounced around the league and hasn't latched on anywhere long term. That is generally referred to as being a "bust". Not sure why this reality is triggering you so hard.

Sure they do. They're not good. 1718 yards and 14 TDs over 5 seasons. That's 344 yards and 2.8 TDs per season for reference. He's averaged 25 receiving yards per game played.

4 teams in 6 years as a former 1st round pick = BUST. Sorry.

Well, that post sure was ironic.

Olsen did more in four seasons in Chicago than Hurst has in five. Quite a bit more. Hurst is on his fourth team in six years for a reason. I hope he can show in Carolina why he was a 1st round pick but as of right now? Certified bust.

It's crazy how fast Zach Bryan blew up. It was just a few years ago when he was a kid in the Navy just posting videos on YouTube. I was planning to go see him in Asheville last year and the cheapest ticket to get in the door was like $200. I was like

Thielen is a proven producer but is on the decline. Chark is a proven producer but requires that dreaded "when healthy" addendum. Hurst is basically an outright bust of a former 1st round TE. I mean, let's be honest, 1700 yards over the course of 5 seasons just isn't good.

I think our OL is pretty good on paper. Maybe as good as any we've ever had. The receiving corps is about as close to a complete question mark as you can get in the NFL. Little proven production, but some intriguing young potential. We'll see how it pans out. Honestly, I'm personally not overly concerned about this season. I don't expect to be contenders. I just want to see progress made and signs that we have a coaching staff and a QB that can get us there with a few more pieces.

The Pats are always solid but I can't see being excited by Mac Jones as a WR.

I love it. Let us focus on building this thing operating completely under the radar and out of the spotlight.

I wish the stadium had a stand alone name. Like in Denver they have Mile High stadium and the sponsor is the field. No one gives a fug. It's still just Mile High to everyone out there even though the team and all media outlets constantly cram the corporate sponsor down everyone's throats. It's still just Mile High.

Good grief. You can't be this dense.

Not a rookie doesn't equal "seasoned vet".

The only seasoned vet we have in the WR corps is Thielen.

The QB is the only guy who truly has to understand the full playbook. Everyone else just needs to understand their role in the play. Honorable mention to the center who has to understand the protections.

Gonna be honest here... Anyone who hasn't had a full blown psychedelic experience is missing out on a lot. The research going into psilocybin right now are really eye opening. Yeah, the NFL should be looking into it. But not for the reasons that you're suggesting.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/06/22/nfl-players-association-expects-to-have-a-new-executive-director-by-june-29/ Written like a guy who legit went for it and is butthurt he wasn't even considered.

At this point it seems like we're either sticking with what we've got or we're waiting for roster cuts. I don't expect any splash moves at this point prior to TC.

If there was a league wide open draft I'd honestly be surprised if 32 out of 32 GMs wouldn't take Mahomes if they had the #1 overall pick.

Congrats! Are his initials R.M. by chance?

Taken care of. Thanks for the alert.